POP QUIZ! why dont they rape? - Page 2 - Rape Board

numbers · 03-23-2007, 05:40 PM

My friend (female) was telling me how she wouldn't be turned on at all if she knew the other person didn't want it...

Could that be a reason as well? That people just don't like it when they know it's not wanted?

Error Nomad · 03-24-2007, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternenlied

Well, first of all - when talking about numbers - we should differentiate between locations. You can't take the estimated number of rape victims in one area/country and extrapolate a number for all over the world.

As to what stops men from raping women: I'd go for fear of punishment as well.
Just look at places where prosecution is highly unlikely (like new orleans after the hurricane) because of chaos or maybe the absence of authority. Another situation: Ethnic cleansings and genocide - organised mass rape is considered a "legal" measure by the forces behind it so their soldiers/milita/whatever have no punishment to fear.
So I'd have to agree with Louise on that.
On the other hand I don't think stealing something can't be compared to rape or murder. The threshold is much higher and hard to cross than just stealing without actually hurting someone. That's the reason because penalties for non-violent crimes are usually much lower. So I don't think people who would agree they'd steal if they were sure never to be prosecuted have to be considered potential rapists as well.
Ethics and morale are no constants in an equation, they are variables for everyone to put in individually. So I don't think we can hold on to morale as a pillar for safety. If that were so we wouldn't need laws and a police force, would we?
Of course I won't accuse every man of being a rapist at heart, I really believe there are men (most of them that is) who actually consider rape not just a crime but something profoundly wrong. But since I'm positive every human is a potential killer (given certain circumstances) I'm also sure most men could become a rapist.
So I would say there is no absolute "this" or "that", I think this is too vast a field to give one single answer.

Very well said.
EN

hornybisexualbitch · 03-24-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by somedude

I do! I think it's morals rather than fear of punishment.

i sure hope so, i would like to believe arent totally evil.

perval · 03-24-2007, 04:07 PM

i think its mostly fear of punishment, but also social rejection which is sort of a punishment

pimpjuicenigga · 07-19-2007, 01:29 PM

i think fear is basically what stops men from raping, at least that is the case for myself. suppose that for a day, if u raped anyone, there would be no punishment. there would be no law, no rejection from society, and no one would even remember that u had done it. i ask you, would u honestly not rape that hot girl that u can never have? i would go ted bundy on every attractive young girl that i saw. i would make them scream, cry, beg, and hurt. i would destroy their body.

Jezebel · 07-20-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpjuicenigga

i think fear is basically what stops men from raping, at least that is the case for myself. suppose that for a day, if u raped anyone, there would be no punishment. there would be no law, no rejection from society, and no one would even remember that u had done it. i ask you, would u honestly not rape that hot girl that u can never have? i would go ted bundy on every attractive young girl that i saw. i would make them scream, cry, beg, and hurt. i would destroy their body.

Ummmm...I'm kind of frightened by this... No...I would not ever rape anybody for any reason no matter what the law was. Um...I'm sorry dude, but did you just say you would "go Ted Bundy"?

Beardy · 07-20-2007, 10:39 PM

First: Most of the men donÂ´t rape women because of the moral. IÂ´m sure about this.
Second: Unfortunately thereÂ´s a few men who would rape any woman they saw if it wasnÂ´t against the law. Look up two posts and youÂ´ll understand. ItÂ´s still a long walk for women to gain respect for all of men. I feel sad when I read posts like that from pimpjuicenigga. I feel as piece of flesh not as a person.

Brio · 07-23-2007, 08:31 PM

I think this question is highly flawed because it assumes that 'rape' is just one set of actions. There are all kinds of rape, and they aren't all the same, and the motivation for or against acting out one's fantasies differ with the types of rape that people think about.

It's a Feminist cliche that all rape is about power, not sex. I absolutely disagree with that opinion, although I'm sure it's true about some rape.

I am a highly confident, strong, and powerful personality. I have no need to exert power over someone solely to exert power over them. In my case, exerting power or force is merely a means to another end, and that end is hot sex with someone who is either too hot to want to date me, or too inhibited to fuck me anonymously or without some kind of persistent relationship. I like anonymous sex fantasies best, with or without a rape component. My fantasies are driven by the male equivalent of the feminine fantasy that Erica Jong called "the zipless fuck".

When it comes to deliberately torturing a rapee, I am left cold. I don't want any part of that. Likewise, I don't like the idea of breaking her nose or her arm to pacify her. An injured, bleeding woman is not sexy to me, although a submissive one, or a helpless one, certainly is. I want to force her and I want to fuck her selfishly, but I also want to make her cum even though she doesn't want to. I DO NOT want to physically hurt her, although I have little thought for the shame or the anger she might feel after I let her go.

Others have very different fantasies and motivations, and that will certainly be a huge factor in their decision to act out their fantasies or to keep them in check, both due to morality and the risk of being arrested. If we want to talk meaningfully about why we don't rape for real, we need to define what kind of rape we're talking about.

subgirl · 07-24-2007, 02:20 AM

there lot more rape be that not be report. lot them it some one thay know ashamed is a facter as well as for me in frist rape i thouught kill me or my sister or mommy

ego · 07-24-2007, 07:13 AM

Nice post @Brio!

Intheshadows · 07-24-2007, 08:32 AM

Looking at it from an historical prospective, in past history after many wars the winning army was allowed to Rape the population pretty much at will. There was no "legal" penelty so the only thing that would prevent the soldjer would be his own morals. The results was a lot of women being raped. Therefore I'd conclude that the "legal" penelities play the greatest factor, but obviously it is a combination of both.

RapeU · 07-28-2007, 05:36 PM

with me it would be both reasons...at least before I joined this board

now I'd only be afraid of punnishment

kate2003 · 08-01-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Louise

Oh...and I think many, many more women ARE raped than we can possibly imagine by looking at official figures. Estimates vary, but using my circle of friends Id say at least half of them have had some form of sexual assault in their lives...

I have heard estimates as high as 50% that have been raped,and as high as 90% that have been sexually asaulted in some way,example being grabbed in a sexual manner without consent,young boys are notrious for that,and alot of girls don't recognize that as a sexual assault, concidering the nature of the crime ,and the humiliation the victim goes though,it is very easy to believe, that the majority of rapes go unreported.

Darkman · 08-03-2007, 11:07 AM

yeah i reckon, it could ruin a marriage or relationship i guess, or at least that would be the fear of talking about it. revenge too, its not like they get locked up for very long is it?

IMRAZOR · 08-06-2007, 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=Darkman]Im always amazed that more women aren't raped to be honest. I wonder why that is, do you think that its because more attacker/s are:

1. Afraid of punishment?
Hopefully that isn't the main reason, but this is...

2. Good morals?
Or to put it another way, continued awareness of the big difference between fanatsy and reality

Akirana · 09-29-2007, 12:03 AM

if you had a timeloop for instance... that would be cool... but i still would not just rape any woman on the street... i'd only rape MY woman till the point that i know what she likes and stuff and of course she would forget every time the loop started... and then i'd get out of the timeloop and give her the suprise of a lifetime

i think rape is wrong on all fronts xept for us wicked people who do it consetually

Darkman · 09-29-2007, 01:51 AM

or mind control, or the ability to make people forget would be mighty useful too methinks

07-19-2007, 01:29 PM	#25
pimpjuicenigga Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2 Reputation: 10	fear. i think fear is basically what stops men from raping, at least that is the case for myself. suppose that for a day, if u raped anyone, there would be no punishment. there would be no law, no rejection from society, and no one would even remember that u had done it. i ask you, would u honestly not rape that hot girl that u can never have? i would go ted bundy on every attractive young girl that i saw. i would make them scream, cry, beg, and hurt. i would destroy their body.

07-20-2007, 10:39 PM	#27
Beardy Dark alley walker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 1,210 Reputation: 22589	First: Most of the men donÂ´t rape women because of the moral. IÂ´m sure about this. Second: Unfortunately thereÂ´s a few men who would rape any woman they saw if it wasnÂ´t against the law. Look up two posts and youÂ´ll understand. ItÂ´s still a long walk for women to gain respect for all of men. I feel sad when I read posts like that from pimpjuicenigga. I feel as piece of flesh not as a person. __________________ Meet me in your dark dreams.

07-23-2007, 08:31 PM	#28
Brio Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Reputation: 37	I think this question is highly flawed because it assumes that 'rape' is just one set of actions. There are all kinds of rape, and they aren't all the same, and the motivation for or against acting out one's fantasies differ with the types of rape that people think about. It's a Feminist cliche that all rape is about power, not sex. I absolutely disagree with that opinion, although I'm sure it's true about some rape. I am a highly confident, strong, and powerful personality. I have no need to exert power over someone solely to exert power over them. In my case, exerting power or force is merely a means to another end, and that end is hot sex with someone who is either too hot to want to date me, or too inhibited to fuck me anonymously or without some kind of persistent relationship. I like anonymous sex fantasies best, with or without a rape component. My fantasies are driven by the male equivalent of the feminine fantasy that Erica Jong called "the zipless fuck". When it comes to deliberately torturing a rapee, I am left cold. I don't want any part of that. Likewise, I don't like the idea of breaking her nose or her arm to pacify her. An injured, bleeding woman is not sexy to me, although a submissive one, or a helpless one, certainly is. I want to force her and I want to fuck her selfishly, but I also want to make her cum even though she doesn't want to. I DO NOT want to physically hurt her, although I have little thought for the shame or the anger she might feel after I let her go. Others have very different fantasies and motivations, and that will certainly be a huge factor in their decision to act out their fantasies or to keep them in check, both due to morality and the risk of being arrested. If we want to talk meaningfully about why we don't rape for real, we need to define what kind of rape we're talking about. Last edited by Brio; 07-23-2007 at 08:34 PM.

07-24-2007, 02:20 AM	#29
subgirl super nerd milf Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: san diego calif Posts: 316 Reputation: 3784	women there lot more rape be that not be report. lot them it some one thay know ashamed is a facter as well as for me in frist rape i thouught kill me or my sister or mommy

07-24-2007, 07:13 AM	#30
ego the obscure Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,457 Reputation: 14892	Nice post @Brio! __________________ ..lure them all into the abyss!

03-23-2007, 05:40 PM	#21
numbers Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 76 Reputation: 1241	My friend (female) was telling me how she wouldn't be turned on at all if she knew the other person didn't want it... Could that be a reason as well? That people just don't like it when they know it's not wanted?

03-24-2007, 04:07 PM	#24
perval Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 16 Reputation: 10	i think its mostly fear of punishment, but also social rejection which is sort of a punishment

07-24-2007, 08:32 AM	#31
Intheshadows Privileged Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,743 Reputation: 642	Looking at it from an historical prospective, in past history after many wars the winning army was allowed to Rape the population pretty much at will. There was no "legal" penelty so the only thing that would prevent the soldjer would be his own morals. The results was a lot of women being raped. Therefore I'd conclude that the "legal" penelities play the greatest factor, but obviously it is a combination of both.

07-28-2007, 05:36 PM	#32
RapeU Yes = No. No = Yes Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,412 Reputation: 33359	with me it would be both reasons...at least before I joined this board now I'd only be afraid of punnishment __________________ Stories I have written. The Red Rose Rapist short stories Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Sugar Is Sweet, The Rapist Is You!? The Kidnapping Chronicles The Hunter, Huntress, LK, The Masked Marauder, Melinda's Tale, and The Masked Marauder II - Allen's Revenge Other Stories At My Cousin's Wedding

08-03-2007, 11:07 AM	#34
Darkman its all give and take Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 688 Reputation: 179	yeah i reckon, it could ruin a marriage or relationship i guess, or at least that would be the fear of talking about it. revenge too, its not like they get locked up for very long is it? __________________ just do it

08-06-2007, 03:40 PM	#35
IMRAZOR Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: LONDON AREA Posts: 74 Reputation: -599	[QUOTE=Darkman]Im always amazed that more women aren't raped to be honest. I wonder why that is, do you think that its because more attacker/s are: 1. Afraid of punishment? Hopefully that isn't the main reason, but this is... 2. Good morals? Or to put it another way, continued awareness of the big difference between fanatsy and reality

09-29-2007, 12:03 AM	#36
Akirana GrandMaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 501 Reputation: 3876	if you had a timeloop for instance... that would be cool... but i still would not just rape any woman on the street... i'd only rape MY woman till the point that i know what she likes and stuff and of course she would forget every time the loop started... and then i'd get out of the timeloop and give her the suprise of a lifetime i think rape is wrong on all fronts xept for us wicked people who do it consetually __________________ As the Sands of Time keep flowing, I find solace in the fact, that life is not eternal Also, seeing a girls ass gape after being fucked, best sight in the world!

09-29-2007, 01:51 AM	#37
Darkman its all give and take Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 688 Reputation: 179	or mind control, or the ability to make people forget would be mighty useful too methinks __________________ just do it