Pain - Rape Board

ChiTownHoney · 06-09-2009, 11:45 PM

We all know that pain is our bodies response to abuse of the body..sending signals to the brain to let us know to pull away.

I like pain to a certain extent. Obviously, excruciating pain sucks, but I like being punched every so often, or I pinch myself alot when I play with myself.

I have a high tolerence for pain, I dont mind getting shots or going to the dentist at all, I can take a great deal of pain.

A stinging pain feels really good. When your man spanks you too hard or pulls you too hard, it sets off a pleasure response in combination with the pain. Its like a "bring it"

Why do some like pain? and why does it make us hornier?

BTN · 06-10-2009, 03:24 AM

I'm a little surprised to see one of the ladies of the board ask this but I guess that goes hand in hand with the submissive side of this fantasy of ours.

I've heard people talk about the endorphins released when a human body is exposed to pain or whatever. So a shock to the system, under the right circumstances can feel good. Be it BDSM, light spanking or like a certain young lady I know, tats and peircings

Sternenlied · 06-10-2009, 06:32 AM

Well, I am not a medical doctor so my recollection might be a little flawed (eventually) so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
I'll keep it simple and will not go into too much detail.

Pain can trigger various responses in our bodies and brains.

Like adrenaline for example (Epinephrine) - its release is triggered by several stress situations (danger, excitement, etc.) to put the body in "action mode" and thus improving our chances of survival - is another survival mechanism.

Pain essentially serves a very similar purpose. It's suppose to trigger actions to prevent the pain and thus a harmful situation.

While adrenaline can also be released to counteract pain (and eventual physical shutdown and thus death due to pain) bodily released endorphins can have the same effect, enabling the human body to push its limits (into dangerous areas, too) and overcome physically stressful situations by providing us with a "high". This "high" can become an addiction by the way.

So a regulated dose of pain can actually lead to a state of heightened anxiety and eventually pleasure.

Psychologically there is a condition called "Algolagnia" (which is believed to actually be a physical condition) - meaning the subject derives pleasure from inflicted pain because a malfunction causes the brain to (mis)interpret pain as pleasure.

Next to this rather medical explanation BDSM however is an actual subject of constant psychological research, leading to sometimes contradicting results (though not classifying it as a sexual disorder anymore - Freud did that in his time).

The psychological reasons for enjoying pain can be vast and quite individual so describing them all in detail would take up too much time.

I am quite sure however many members preferring the "victim role" around here are (at least to some degree) aware of their own personal reasons.

As you can see there are several approaches and explanations as well as reasons to eventually enjoy pain (to a certain level) so giving an absolute and general answer is impossible and incorrect.

Why you individually enjoy inflicted pain is a different story that requires some deeper invasion of your privacy.

prey4me · 06-10-2009, 10:13 AM

Sternenlied, that response could serve as the summary of a medical/psychologcal journal article!

I sensed a vein of pride in ChiTownHoney's initial post--no offense, really! I know that I gain a real sense of (yes, prideful) satisfaction when I have survived, prevailed, or merely endured a dangerous or painful situation. It can be anything from smelling the gunsmoke at the conclusion of a firefight, and knowing that you're not just alive, but you kicked ass, to climbing out of a car wreck--bloody and ailing, but alive.

The sensations are more than hormonal, Sternenlied. They endure in the memory banks.

FuckingRotter · 06-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Hmmm....

Very interesting read Sternenlied, but what I need to know is why do I enjoy inflicting pain so much?!?

Cedar · 06-10-2009, 08:08 PM

Very curious that pain, which evolved specifically to be unpleasant and cause animals to avoid things, can be experienced as semi-pleasurable under certain conditions. There seems to be no limit to the individualistic twists on nature we humans come up with.

Mr. F. Rotter: but what I need to know is why do I enjoy inflicting pain so much?!?

Male-primate dominance assertion. It saturates everything.

"How does one man express power over another? By making him suffer. For if he is not suffering, how can you be sure he is obeying your will rather than his own?" (Paraphrased from Orwell's 1984, I don't have it handy to look up the exact quote.) I know you're not talking about inflicting it on other males, but it's the same principle.

Maybe females evolved some ability to enjoy pain because of the benefits which mating with aggressive, dominant males (which means having to hang out with them too) meant for producing successful offspring which would carry on one's genes? I wonder if there are other primates with masochistic females?

AtomicGarbage · 06-11-2009, 01:38 AM

physical pain
How I love thee
Let me count the ways

For me, the whole masochism/victimhood thing is usually accompanied by a certain state of mind, reckless and dangerous and uninhibited. I suppose it would have to be, for me to put myself in situations where I'm not completely safe. In any event, pain almost always only escalates the excitement of the experience, the roller-coaster rush side of things. I don't think I can say exactly why. It is one thing to be mentally toyed with and manipulated, but as was said, you really know you've lost control and dominance when someone is able to hurt you.

Sternenlied · 06-11-2009, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FuckingRotter

Very interesting read Sternenlied, but what I need to know is why do I enjoy inflicting pain so much?!?

The need and joy of inflicting pain onto others usually derives from the need to counteract and compensate for some kind of pain in ourselves.

FuckingRotter · 06-11-2009, 01:15 PM

Is that proper grown up psychology? Because compared with your previous post it seems like something somebody said down the pub.

Bella-In-Progress · 06-11-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternenlied

The need and joy of inflicting pain onto others usually derives from the need to counteract and compensate for some kind of pain in ourselves.

Or that he's a crazed murderer

pervipete · 06-11-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FuckingRotter

Hmmm....

Very interesting read Sternenlied, but what I need to know is why do I enjoy inflicting pain so much?!?

Because you are a psycho

Uncle Al · 06-11-2009, 06:30 PM

I agree, pain is a real turn on!

Shyminx · 06-15-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTownHoney

We all know that pain is our bodies response to abuse of the body..sending signals to the brain to let us know to pull away.

I like pain to a certain extent. Obviously, excruciating pain sucks, but I like being punched every so often, or I pinch myself alot when I play with myself.

I have a high tolerence for pain, I dont mind getting shots or going to the dentist at all, I can take a great deal of pain.

A stinging pain feels really good. When your man spanks you too hard or pulls you too hard, it sets off a pleasure response in combination with the pain. Its like a "bring it"

Why do some like pain? and why does it make us hornier?

I have not done anything real with pain but I have noticed certain responses in myself when roleplaying. I have roleplayed some extreme things in trying to find where I stand on the pain ground. I have found out that I actually cringe when a partner punches my character in the face or even stomach. Whips and paddles do little for me but the idea of a hand doing some spanking is hot. There is some pleasure derived from being humiliated during a spanking that I never knew existed (like being told to count the number of spanks). Then there are other kinds of pain like a slap in the face or when he grabs my hair or when he holds me down so tight that it hurts. That kind of pain I like. Then more of the BDSM type thing with nipple clamps while he forces me to cum... now that is HOT. I think the brain sort of confuses the two and it combines as either pleasure or pain. Lucky for me the result seems to be intense pleasure so I crave a lot more of it.

Tim Woodman · 06-16-2009, 11:14 AM

When teaching classes on this subject, I am careful to avoid the over-use of the word "Pain." I prefer to describe masochism as deriving pleasure from "extreme sensation" because the word pain is such a relative term. What causes one person agony may seem very mild to another. As ChiTown observed, there is more than one kind of 'pain' - be it sting, thud, burn, or whatever.

By the same token, sadism is deriving pleasure from inflicting extreme sensation. Be it tickling, branding, caning, or even overwhelming orgasm, and personally I get my big rush out of forcing a reaction from another's body, whether out of pain, tickling or pleasure, it is the extremity of sensation, and the involuntary nature of their reaction, that does it for me.

Just one (not-so-very) humble Villain's thoughts...

06-09-2009, 11:45 PM	#1
ChiTownHoney Pa'l Mundo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: ObamaNation Posts: 2,460 Reputation: 33436	Pain We all know that pain is our bodies response to abuse of the body..sending signals to the brain to let us know to pull away. I like pain to a certain extent. Obviously, excruciating pain sucks, but I like being punched every so often, or I pinch myself alot when I play with myself. I have a high tolerence for pain, I dont mind getting shots or going to the dentist at all, I can take a great deal of pain. A stinging pain feels really good. When your man spanks you too hard or pulls you too hard, it sets off a pleasure response in combination with the pain. Its like a "bring it" Why do some like pain? and why does it make us hornier?

06-10-2009, 03:24 AM	#2
BTN Admiral Adama Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Galactica CIC Posts: 1,018 Reputation: 45123	I'm a little surprised to see one of the ladies of the board ask this but I guess that goes hand in hand with the submissive side of this fantasy of ours. I've heard people talk about the endorphins released when a human body is exposed to pain or whatever. So a shock to the system, under the right circumstances can feel good. Be it BDSM, light spanking or like a certain young lady I know, tats and peircings __________________ So say we all

06-10-2009, 06:32 AM	#3
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	Well, I am not a medical doctor so my recollection might be a little flawed (eventually) so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'll keep it simple and will not go into too much detail. Pain can trigger various responses in our bodies and brains. Like adrenaline for example (Epinephrine) - its release is triggered by several stress situations (danger, excitement, etc.) to put the body in "action mode" and thus improving our chances of survival - is another survival mechanism. Pain essentially serves a very similar purpose. It's suppose to trigger actions to prevent the pain and thus a harmful situation. While adrenaline can also be released to counteract pain (and eventual physical shutdown and thus death due to pain) bodily released endorphins can have the same effect, enabling the human body to push its limits (into dangerous areas, too) and overcome physically stressful situations by providing us with a "high". This "high" can become an addiction by the way. So a regulated dose of pain can actually lead to a state of heightened anxiety and eventually pleasure. Psychologically there is a condition called "Algolagnia" (which is believed to actually be a physical condition) - meaning the subject derives pleasure from inflicted pain because a malfunction causes the brain to (mis)interpret pain as pleasure. Next to this rather medical explanation BDSM however is an actual subject of constant psychological research, leading to sometimes contradicting results (though not classifying it as a sexual disorder anymore - Freud did that in his time). The psychological reasons for enjoying pain can be vast and quite individual so describing them all in detail would take up too much time. I am quite sure however many members preferring the "victim role" around here are (at least to some degree) aware of their own personal reasons. As you can see there are several approaches and explanations as well as reasons to eventually enjoy pain (to a certain level) so giving an absolute and general answer is impossible and incorrect. Why you individually enjoy inflicted pain is a different story that requires some deeper invasion of your privacy. __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way Last edited by Sternenlied; 06-10-2009 at 06:34 AM.

06-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#5
FuckingRotter The Fist of Fury. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Entering the.... Posts: 9,649 Reputation: 118903	Hmmm.... Very interesting read Sternenlied, but what I need to know is why do I enjoy inflicting pain so much?!? __________________ Fist is a four letter word. So is fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, fist fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, and, well you get the fist-fucking picture.... THE WESTCOUNTRY SHALL RISE AGAIN! Yay! It's pink! Don't think.... FEEL! We're Englishmen, and we came here, to rape your women and drink your beer. I went back in time and voted for Hitler. Pouring oil on troubled waters since 2008. Then lighting a fucking match.

06-10-2009, 08:08 PM	#6
Cedar Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 226 Reputation: 5732	Very curious that pain, which evolved specifically to be unpleasant and cause animals to avoid things, can be experienced as semi-pleasurable under certain conditions. There seems to be no limit to the individualistic twists on nature we humans come up with. Mr. F. Rotter: but what I need to know is why do I enjoy inflicting pain so much?!? Male-primate dominance assertion. It saturates everything. "How does one man express power over another? By making him suffer. For if he is not suffering, how can you be sure he is obeying your will rather than his own?" (Paraphrased from Orwell's 1984, I don't have it handy to look up the exact quote.) I know you're not talking about inflicting it on other males, but it's the same principle. Maybe females evolved some ability to enjoy pain because of the benefits which mating with aggressive, dominant males (which means having to hang out with them too) meant for producing successful offspring which would carry on one's genes? I wonder if there are other primates with masochistic females? __________________ Coito ergo sum

06-10-2009, 10:13 AM	#4
prey4me Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 482 Reputation: 5552	Sternenlied, that response could serve as the summary of a medical/psychologcal journal article! I sensed a vein of pride in ChiTownHoney's initial post--no offense, really! I know that I gain a real sense of (yes, prideful) satisfaction when I have survived, prevailed, or merely endured a dangerous or painful situation. It can be anything from smelling the gunsmoke at the conclusion of a firefight, and knowing that you're not just alive, but you kicked ass, to climbing out of a car wreck--bloody and ailing, but alive. The sensations are more than hormonal, Sternenlied. They endure in the memory banks.

06-11-2009, 01:38 AM	#7
AtomicGarbage Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 59 Reputation: 475	physical pain How I love thee Let me count the ways For me, the whole masochism/victimhood thing is usually accompanied by a certain state of mind, reckless and dangerous and uninhibited. I suppose it would have to be, for me to put myself in situations where I'm not completely safe. In any event, pain almost always only escalates the excitement of the experience, the roller-coaster rush side of things. I don't think I can say exactly why. It is one thing to be mentally toyed with and manipulated, but as was said, you really know you've lost control and dominance when someone is able to hurt you. __________________ I haven't been fucked like that since gradeschool.

06-11-2009, 01:15 PM	#9
FuckingRotter The Fist of Fury. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Entering the.... Posts: 9,649 Reputation: 118903	Is that proper grown up psychology? Because compared with your previous post it seems like something somebody said down the pub. __________________ Fist is a four letter word. So is fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, fist fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, and, well you get the fist-fucking picture.... THE WESTCOUNTRY SHALL RISE AGAIN! Yay! It's pink! Don't think.... FEEL! We're Englishmen, and we came here, to rape your women and drink your beer. I went back in time and voted for Hitler. Pouring oil on troubled waters since 2008. Then lighting a fucking match.

06-11-2009, 06:30 PM	#12
Uncle Al Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 329 Reputation: 1469	I agree, pain is a real turn on! __________________ TheWorld Rape Daywas a HIT see you next year!

06-16-2009, 11:14 AM	#14
Tim Woodman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 105 Reputation: 940	When teaching classes on this subject, I am careful to avoid the over-use of the word "Pain." I prefer to describe masochism as deriving pleasure from "extreme sensation" because the word pain is such a relative term. What causes one person agony may seem very mild to another. As ChiTown observed, there is more than one kind of 'pain' - be it sting, thud, burn, or whatever. By the same token, sadism is deriving pleasure from inflicting extreme sensation. Be it tickling, branding, caning, or even overwhelming orgasm, and personally I get my big rush out of forcing a reaction from another's body, whether out of pain, tickling or pleasure, it is the extremity of sensation, and the involuntary nature of their reaction, that does it for me. Just one (not-so-very) humble Villain's thoughts... __________________ Tim Woodman, Professional Villain