Rapist = Better Recidivist ? - Rape Board

shysnale · 02-27-2009, 05:04 AM

Do you think a rapist is more likely to repeat his crime than a robber or a murderer ?

I mean when sex is involved, you've got all that fetish and ritual thing, you know all these posts saying 'I want my rape to finish exactly like this, exactly like that'. Rapists seem to be perfectionists. I'm not sure the same thing would happen in a murderer or in a stealer mind. After all, when you stole a diamond, you have it for good, when you killed a ennemy, he's dead for good and won't come back as a zombi.

As far as rapists are involved, things can't be so simple. There might be so many demons coming back in their minds. 'I should have make her cry more by using a whip to spank her sweet ass before I sodomized her' or 'I should have worked my cock all over her face and ejaculate in her purse so all her personal stuff would be fucked up ? her Id, cellphone, etc ?

Sternenlied · 02-27-2009, 05:07 AM

Depends.
Are we talking one-time rapists or serial rapists?

shysnale · 02-27-2009, 05:13 AM

One time rapist ! (in his mind anyway)

Sternenlied · 02-27-2009, 05:24 AM

Well, rape can occur many ways, a rapist can have various reasons for instigating a rape.
Most one-time rapes however are rapes of opportunity, outbursts of rage (countless reasons a man "snaps") but most rapists aren't repeating offenders.
Actually most rapists don't put as much though into it than us ravishment fantasizers do.

shysnale · 02-27-2009, 05:48 AM

Could that mean 'us' (the rape fantasizers) would have more pleasure doing it than real rapists or could all the thoughts we're projecting here would turn our minds away from the crude 'flesh to flesh' feeling ?

Sternenlied · 02-27-2009, 08:59 AM

While, most rape fantasizers are actually harmless. In fact, ravishment fantasy is an elaborate sexual fetish and like most fetishes, people sharing them are rather specific about what they like. Still - in the end - it remains a simple sexual preference we want to enjoy with our partner(s) and have them enjoy it equally.
So forcing ourselves on somebody else would (should) actually give us less sexual pleasure from the act than a consensual RP might.
That's - by the way - one of the reasons a life RP with someone we don't know intimately has a very high chance of being disappointing. Most of us have quite specific fantasies they'd like to turn into real-life action which, of course, is almost impossible to accomplish by "just giving it a try".
I suppose (even when it comes to "regular" sex) pretty much everyone has occasionally experienced sexual disappointments, especially when the expectations were too high ...

So ... as long as you don't actually fancy the thought of an unwilling victim being taken against their will I don't think anyone sharing the rape fetish would commit a real rape. So no, I don't see anyone here getting more pleasure out of it, simply because we have this particular fetish, quite the contrary.
Just look at members who have been raped or know somebody who has been. Usually these members have a better understanding of what a unique and extremely devastating experience being raped is - many times they feel even more guilty or "vile" for having rape fantasies than people who have never encountered rape for themselves.

crimsondesire · 02-27-2009, 09:02 AM

Not really in my opinion,we would not enjoy it more for many reasons.

However Rapeboard is a great way to express youself. Gee my posts have been short lately.

Cedar · 02-27-2009, 02:23 PM

ejaculate in her purse so all her personal stuff would be fucked up ? her Id, cellphone, etc

Waste of jizz. That kind of thing is what piss is for.

I wouldn't know from experience, but I've heard that rape works kind of like potato chips. You think you can do just one and then stop, but you can't.

Oh, well, at least rape isn't fattening.

pervipete · 02-27-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cedar

I wouldn't know from experience, but I've heard that rape works kind of like potato chips. You think you can do just one and then stop, but you can't.

I think this goes for most crimes.

Sierra · 02-27-2009, 05:45 PM

Although of course I defer to Stern's superior knowledge of the subject, I would think it depends on why the rapist did it.

If it's a guy into controlling women in that way and that makes him feel... whatever it is he wants to feel... I would think he will do it until he gets caught. Over and over you hear about the recidivism rate for sexual offenders (rapists, pedophiles, etc.). Most of the reports I've read about such people say that chance of them doing it after prison ranges from 80-100%.

If it's just some guy "teaching the bitch a lesson", maybe not.

One thing Stern and I do agree on - the fetishists here on this board are (imo) the LEAST likely to do something with an unwilling victim. Can you imagine Maddog raping a small-breasted woman? Rogue raping a woman with ugly shoes? It just wouldn't work. We are all so very specific.

sparks · 02-27-2009, 06:21 PM

No and it surprised me

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...9/ai_n17194955

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Those convicted of robbery, murder and felony assault were the most likely to have prior criminal convictions while rapists were least likely to have a history of conviction.

may simply have to do with the statistics in that the conviction rates differ and as such effect the stats

and while all murders are reported in one way or the other many rapes are not

but there ya go

cheers

shysnale · 02-28-2009, 04:13 AM

Whow thank you very much everybody for these great long answers.
I was still thinking about it last night as I was watching 'La Confidential'. The character played by actor Kevin Spacey get shot with a bullet in his heart and the last expression he gives to his murderer is a smile. I remember in some thriller whose name I forgot, a serial killer while caught by the police explains to them he likes to kill because he loves to see 'this last spark of despair' in his victims eyes. So if a victim has enough witt to give a murderer a big smile before passing away, it has a chance to piss off the murderer and make him want to do it again on another person. Because 'the last spark of despair' in a victime eye is like a drug to him. So I was wrong from the beginning, killers also are perfectionists and likely to repeat their crime if the victim did not have the expression he was expecting when she died. lol 'how to please your murderer when he kills you' what an idea for a book.

02-27-2009, 05:04 AM	#1
shysnale Neurotic Escargot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Poker Table Posts: 2,754 Reputation: 13179	Rapist = Better Recidivist ? Do you think a rapist is more likely to repeat his crime than a robber or a murderer ? I mean when sex is involved, you've got all that fetish and ritual thing, you know all these posts saying 'I want my rape to finish exactly like this, exactly like that'. Rapists seem to be perfectionists. I'm not sure the same thing would happen in a murderer or in a stealer mind. After all, when you stole a diamond, you have it for good, when you killed a ennemy, he's dead for good and won't come back as a zombi. As far as rapists are involved, things can't be so simple. There might be so many demons coming back in their minds. 'I should have make her cry more by using a whip to spank her sweet ass before I sodomized her' or 'I should have worked my cock all over her face and ejaculate in her purse so all her personal stuff would be fucked up ? her Id, cellphone, etc ?

02-27-2009, 05:07 AM	#2
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	Depends. Are we talking one-time rapists or serial rapists? __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way

02-27-2009, 05:24 AM	#4
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	Well, rape can occur many ways, a rapist can have various reasons for instigating a rape. Most one-time rapes however are rapes of opportunity, outbursts of rage (countless reasons a man "snaps") but most rapists aren't repeating offenders. Actually most rapists don't put as much though into it than us ravishment fantasizers do. __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way

02-27-2009, 08:59 AM	#6
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	While, most rape fantasizers are actually harmless. In fact, ravishment fantasy is an elaborate sexual fetish and like most fetishes, people sharing them are rather specific about what they like. Still - in the end - it remains a simple sexual preference we want to enjoy with our partner(s) and have them enjoy it equally. So forcing ourselves on somebody else would (should) actually give us less sexual pleasure from the act than a consensual RP might. That's - by the way - one of the reasons a life RP with someone we don't know intimately has a very high chance of being disappointing. Most of us have quite specific fantasies they'd like to turn into real-life action which, of course, is almost impossible to accomplish by "just giving it a try". I suppose (even when it comes to "regular" sex) pretty much everyone has occasionally experienced sexual disappointments, especially when the expectations were too high ... So ... as long as you don't actually fancy the thought of an unwilling victim being taken against their will I don't think anyone sharing the rape fetish would commit a real rape. So no, I don't see anyone here getting more pleasure out of it, simply because we have this particular fetish, quite the contrary. Just look at members who have been raped or know somebody who has been. Usually these members have a better understanding of what a unique and extremely devastating experience being raped is - many times they feel even more guilty or "vile" for having rape fantasies than people who have never encountered rape for themselves. __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way

02-27-2009, 09:02 AM	#7
crimsondesire Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 382 Reputation: 7970	Not really in my opinion,we would not enjoy it more for many reasons. However Rapeboard is a great way to express youself. Gee my posts have been short lately. __________________ Nails tear at raw flesh,cutting deep, tossing and turning, quivering with delight as I weep. Eyes wide open and mouth taped shut breathing barely, hands tied up. A loving heart completly ravished, a home for two,taught to share. Blood runs thick on skin so pale and just like my soul,body bare. Tears are dry, mascara stale, My twisted fairy tale.

02-27-2009, 05:13 AM	#3
shysnale Neurotic Escargot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Poker Table Posts: 2,754 Reputation: 13179	One time rapist ! (in his mind anyway)

02-27-2009, 05:48 AM	#5
shysnale Neurotic Escargot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Poker Table Posts: 2,754 Reputation: 13179	Could that mean 'us' (the rape fantasizers) would have more pleasure doing it than real rapists or could all the thoughts we're projecting here would turn our minds away from the crude 'flesh to flesh' feeling ?

02-27-2009, 02:23 PM	#8
Cedar Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 226 Reputation: 5732	ejaculate in her purse so all her personal stuff would be fucked up ? her Id, cellphone, etc Waste of jizz. That kind of thing is what piss is for. I wouldn't know from experience, but I've heard that rape works kind of like potato chips. You think you can do just one and then stop, but you can't. Oh, well, at least rape isn't fattening. __________________ Coito ergo sum

02-27-2009, 05:45 PM	#10
Sierra Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,625 Reputation: 129196	Although of course I defer to Stern's superior knowledge of the subject, I would think it depends on why the rapist did it. If it's a guy into controlling women in that way and that makes him feel... whatever it is he wants to feel... I would think he will do it until he gets caught. Over and over you hear about the recidivism rate for sexual offenders (rapists, pedophiles, etc.). Most of the reports I've read about such people say that chance of them doing it after prison ranges from 80-100%. If it's just some guy "teaching the bitch a lesson", maybe not. One thing Stern and I do agree on - the fetishists here on this board are (imo) the LEAST likely to do something with an unwilling victim. Can you imagine Maddog raping a small-breasted woman? Rogue raping a woman with ugly shoes? It just wouldn't work. We are all so very specific. __________________ Although the most incisive judges of the witches and even the witches themselves were convinced of the guilt of witchcraft, this guilt nevertheless did not exist. Thus it is with all guilt.

02-28-2009, 04:13 AM	#12
shysnale Neurotic Escargot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Poker Table Posts: 2,754 Reputation: 13179	Whow thank you very much everybody for these great long answers. I was still thinking about it last night as I was watching 'La Confidential'. The character played by actor Kevin Spacey get shot with a bullet in his heart and the last expression he gives to his murderer is a smile. I remember in some thriller whose name I forgot, a serial killer while caught by the police explains to them he likes to kill because he loves to see 'this last spark of despair' in his victims eyes. So if a victim has enough witt to give a murderer a big smile before passing away, it has a chance to piss off the murderer and make him want to do it again on another person. Because 'the last spark of despair' in a victime eye is like a drug to him. So I was wrong from the beginning, killers also are perfectionists and likely to repeat their crime if the victim did not have the expression he was expecting when she died. lol 'how to please your murderer when he kills you' what an idea for a book.