If A Woman Is Raped & No One Hears It ...

[Carrie]

Did it actually happen? Can she get a conviction? Or was she just a drunk slut that changed her mind after she voluntarily f'd them? You're the jury ...

[duracel69]

Interestingly, research by the FBI and the US Airforce suggests that the false accusation rate for rape is very high. Not talking about situation where the accused is found innocent, or the prosecutors feel there is not enough evidence to proceed, but rather situations where the investigations conclude that the accusation is definitely false.

In the western world we seem curiously unwilling to hold these women to account. In my country we recently had a woman who was finally prosecuted and jailed for a few months, after her 11th false accusation.

Women make false accusations for 3 reasons:

Malice. To target the particular man. Especially after a break up instigated by the man, or to help secure custody of children.

As a deflection. They have sex willingly, but get found out e.g. A married woman having an affair. They blame it on rape to avoid blame on themselves. In these cases false accounts may be given to shift the blame from the lover to some random innocent 3rd party. (there is a scheme called iirc the innocence project that is going back over old rape cases, and revisiting them using modern DNA techniques. To date several hundred men have been totally exonerated!)

To gain attention. The serial false rape accuser I mentioned earlier fits this category. Unfortunately, 11 men in her case have had serious effects on their lives. Even an accusation is enough to see marriage and career destroyed, or beatings at the hands of vigilantes.

My advice to men is this: be very careful with drunk or attention seeking women. Do not put yourself in a situation where a false accusation can easily be made against you.

[littlekitten]

Statistically it is said that only 8% of reported rapes are false. However a recently done survey and test by Stanford University shows that almost 50% of reported rapes are false. This also follows the statistic that only about half of rapes are actually reported.

There are factors that can be looked at to tell if it was consenual or forced. When a rape kit is done, the vagina will show signs of trama, outside what would be shown with willing, even rough sex. Also if she tried to fight him off there will often be bruises on her body or his DNA under her fingernails if she scratched him.

Also in the U.S. court of law, if she was drunk, even if she gave consent, he could still be convicted of rape because she would be considered "unable to give consent"

[bigal]

Originally Posted by littlekitten

Statistically it is said that only 8% of reported rapes are false. However a recently done survey and test by Stanford University shows that almost 50% of reported rapes are false.....

Even 8% is too high if all those guys ended up behind bars.

[FuckingRotter]

If nobody heard it, you weren't raping her hard enough!

[littlekitten]

Originally Posted by bigal

Even 8% is too high if all those guys ended up behind bars.

True. Now thats just reported rapes, not convictions, or even charges that are pressed. No idea about those.

[pervipete]

What confuses and muddies the water is the 'no woman would falsely accuse' line from certain feminist groups, which is the same reason that the authorities are reluctant to prosecute them for wasting police time.

[FuckingRotter]

Hah! If you ever get stuck with a bigoted feminazi, spouting her bollock envy, just tell her every woman is a potential victim.

[littlekitten]

Originally Posted by pervipete

What confuses and muddies the water is the 'no woman would falsely accuse' line from certain feminist groups, which is the same reason that the authorities are reluctant to prosecute them for wasting police time.

Whats confusing is that rape is considered one of the most heinous crimes in the U.S. legal system, second only to homicide. A convicted rapist faces a first degree felony and significant jail time.

If a woman who reports a false rape is actually charged, in most states she only faces a third degree misondemer (fourth degree in 14 states) and faces a fine to a couple of months. That being said only about 1% of "known" false reports were actually charged.

[chadbro20]

The burden of proof should always be on the victim. Innocent until proven guilty. They should also stop publicizing rape cases in the media and they should GREATLY increase the penalty for false rape accusations. The rate of false rape reports would go way down if that happened.

[finman]

Cases involving rape should always consider the behvior/character of the woman and the alleged rapist. Although they say you can't infer that the woman's behavior brought on rape, I think (in a broad sense) that that is false. The entire concept of dating/courtship etc. is based on 'guessing' and 'inferring' what the other's intentions are and what vibes they're giving off. If the woman is known to be promiscuous, then of course the man has a greater propensity to believe her intentions are to have sex with him. To say the legal system has look at the alleged crime in isolation is ludicrous.

Granted, I'm not saying promiscuous women can't be 'raped'. I'm sure it does indeed occur but she then just has a higher burden of proof. And of course there are patterns in men's behavior that can point to guilt also...a two way street.

[Bad Man]

IMHO the false accuser should get the same max penalty their target would have gotten if that particular crime actually happened. THAT would go a long way toward curing some false allegations...

And if feminists truly wanted the equality they scream about, I would LOVE to watch them oppose this...equality means equal in all things...even the ones that may come back on you too.

For the record, I am all for equality between men and women - in workplace pay, civil right, etc - all that...what irks me is when groups standing up for certain types of people make it a push not for equal rights, but for extra rights...

--BAD MAN--

[LittleLadyBug]

I think the women that claim false rape are why it's so difficult for women who have been truly raped to be taken seriously. Rape is no joke and these idiotic women who make false claims have no idea what they are accusing that man of.

I do think women who constantly cry "Wolf/Rape" should be prosecuted. If they are not, the system will be abused. (Not saying it's not already.) Perhaps paying a very hefty fine would be more suitable for this type of crime? Instead of sending them to jail and spending our tax dollars on liars, why not make them pay for their lies? Literally.

If a woman is raped and no one hears it, then I'm not sure what to do. I mean, usually it's a he said/she said case. A rape kit can be done, but to me, that just proves that there was a sexual act performed. Whether it was voluntary or not is still the question.

[pervipete]

The problem is, unless the accusation is beyond stupid, for example the woman is obviously delusional, than the accused will always suffer, there will always be a certain degree of 'no smoke without fire' about it.

And the one which concerns me is the amount of people, especially celebrities which are being question and charged for historical abuse. I am curious as to how you could defend yourself and disprove such allegations.