All german nazis?

[Luke rape stalker]

How do you think about this theme?

A long time i ask myself how the people in other countries think about the germans. Are we still all nazis?
For me i have to say: Its a horrible chapter in the german history and we must remember what happened. It was not right and nothing can forgive it.

But on the other side... its long long time ago, the most people who do this are already death.
Are the grandchild still guilty?

Please let me know and let me know what other people you know think about.

[Andering REDDSON]

¿What kinda jackass is saying this? ¡LEMME AD’UM! I’m also into cannibalism you know…

And for you HEATHENS who think this- The National Socialist German Workers Party (NAZIism) has been banned upon punishment of- ¿Was it life without possibility of parole, Luke? I really don’t remember…

A shipmate of mine’s a German, as in FROM GERMANY, and she actually- She didn’t take offense, per se, but she really didn’t like that I even broached the question. She was less upset about the time I grabbed her crotch, than that question (though that’s really not a fair comparison).

[Jasmine]

I think there are probably as many or more Nazi's in the US. No, I don't think anyone associates Germany with Nazi's. Beer maybe, but not Nazi's.

[MADDOGMCMANAMAN]

fuck the nazi's im definitely going to come to germany...when i was growing up i used to wtch the cable channels and german films i saw were always chock full of naked women......so i am definiteley coming.......PREPARE YOUR WOMEN!!!!!! LOL

seriously though in answer to your question every1 is responsible for their own actions and the idea that modern day germany should be held responsible for little moustache's crimes is absurd!!

[Sanitarium]

To be or became a Nazi lies in the heart not in nationality.
There are many "Nazi hearted" people all over the world. Just watch the late night news or read the papers every day and you will see what I mean.
German people is not a cruel nation, they never were I think.
And not all German Nazis were evil back then. Many of the Nazi soldiers became fanatics under the propaganda and others followed orders under fear. No Luke I don't see Germans as Nazis.

[shysnale]

Originally Posted by Luke rape stalker

How do you think about this theme?

A long time i ask myself how the people in other countries think about the germans. Are we still all nazis?
For me i have to say: Its a horrible chapter in the german history and we must remember what happened. It was not right and nothing can forgive it.

But on the other side... its long long time ago, the most people who do this are already death.
Are the grandchild still guilty?

Please let me know and let me know what other people you know think about.

man, I'm sure you're no nazi and I'd like to meet with you

[Louise]

What a curious thread Luke? I hope nothing has been said to make you feel this is a belief held by many!

If the people of Germany are still being held guilty for the Nazis then the British are guilty of joining the first world war which allowed the situation in Germany to become so desperate that the Nazis could come to power.

The people of Denmark should be guilty for the rape and pillaging of the Vikings.

The Italians held guilty for the destruction of the ancient Britons by the Roman army

The Spanish for the destruction of the Incan peoples

The Americans for the destruction and genocide of the native peoples of North America

The French for the chaos that Vietnam became

ETC ETC ETC!

History is to be learnt from...the question is have we learnt from our past?

[tnc4fun]

My dad fought in WWII, in 5 theaters of operation, including D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge. He was even part of a force that liberated one of the concentration camps. Lost a lot of buddies in 4 years of war.

He never talked much about his experiences. In the early 50's he said to me that you just forgive, carrying grudges never helped anyone. In fact he had great sympathy for the average German citizen. He saw the suffering their leaders had brought upon them.

Oh, and Louise, there were people in Britain before the Celts, Angles and Saxons. Wonder who wiped them out ?

[dashrendar44]

i gotta agree and disagree with yall on this one, because it depends on who your talking to. if its a rational and fairly intelligent adult, theyll prolly just reiterate whats ben said here. but back a year or 2 ago in high school when you learnt or talked about germany, boom, nazis would come right to mind for everyone and itd somehow get worked into the convo, no matter how far off base. then again, about 85% of that school was jewish, so whaddya expect? i personally dont think all germans are nazis, they certainly arent now and while a lot of them were forced into it in WWII many of them were volunteers as well. (i mean no offence by this, im part jewish so coming from me...) i personally think hitler was a pretty great man, not for any morbid reasons like genocide, thats stupid. hes always remembered for the nazis and evil, but people forget that he essentially saved the world! if it werent for him rebulding germany and starting the war all the other economies wouldnt of kicked into gear and the depression could of potentially ended civilazition, or at least put us back a large number of decades. germany was a really depressed country, what with their super depression, i mean come on, you needed a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread! but he gave them reasons to be happy, albiet wrong and fleeting reasons. well, those are my two cents on this lol

[Louise]

Originally Posted by dashrendar44

ii personally think hitler was a pretty great man, not for any morbid reasons like genocide, thats stupid. hes always remembered for the nazis and evil, but people forget that he essentially saved the world! if it werent for him rebulding germany and starting the war all the other economies wouldnt of kicked into gear and the depression could of potentially ended civilazition, or at least put us back a large number of decades. germany was a really depressed country, what with their super depression, i mean come on, you needed a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread! but he gave them reasons to be happy, albiet wrong and fleeting reasons. well, those are my two cents on this lol

Im...Im...speechless...and im having a very fucking bad day!!!!
SO much wrong with that statement I cant begin to respond. Please...someone...anyone...I really cant...because Im so angry..;

[Sternenlied]

Well, I can only say I live in Germany since 1998 and I never got the impression they're Nazis at all. Sure, there are always a few who don't like immigrants, there are always people who don't like Jews. But as has already been said that's in your heart, not in your nationality. Those people exist all over the world no matter where they're from.
All I know is they're very friendly people, they have their problems as everyone else does - the only exception is they care too much about all that WWII- and Nazi-history. They are afraid to let it go (I'm not talking about forgetting or something like that) but the people alive right now - about our age - mustn't put guilt for that on their shoulders, they have to let go.
On the other hand (talking about Nazis - and thus racism) my English parents hated the Germans much more than any German I ever met (even WWII-veterans) hated the English. So I have to admit (shamefully) my parents are much more racist than the German people I know.

[ego]

Luke.
If you ask my grandmother, she will definitelly say yes. Germans brought so much pain to her. And she never meet Germans other than soldiers. So, for her, Germans = evil (and this is why i will disagree with Stern, about her parents)

But you ask me. And my answer is WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Germans are just fine people. How did this question came in your mind?
*Hugs Luke* Forget this shit man. Germany is now one of the better supporters of a better world. For all of us!

[somedude]

Originally Posted by dashrendar44

i gotta agree and disagree with yall on this one, because it depends on who your talking to. if its a rational and fairly intelligent adult, theyll prolly just reiterate whats ben said here. but back a year or 2 ago in high school when you learnt or talked about germany, boom, nazis would come right to mind for everyone and itd somehow get worked into the convo, no matter how far off base. then again, about 85% of that school was jewish, so whaddya expect? i personally dont think all germans are nazis, they certainly arent now and while a lot of them were forced into it in WWII many of them were volunteers as well. (i mean no offence by this, im part jewish so coming from me...) i personally think hitler was a pretty great man, not for any morbid reasons like genocide, thats stupid. hes always remembered for the nazis and evil, but people forget that he essentially saved the world! if it werent for him rebulding germany and starting the war all the other economies wouldnt of kicked into gear and the depression could of potentially ended civilazition, or at least put us back a large number of decades. germany was a really depressed country, what with their super depression, i mean come on, you needed a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread! but he gave them reasons to be happy, albiet wrong and fleeting reasons. well, those are my two cents on this lol

Dash the war the Nazis started in Europe set civilization back by decades! Countless artists, scientists, mathmeticians, scholars and every other kind of thinker and doer were killed in that war and so many more went unborn because of the tens of millions of dead. Entire cultures were wiped out, cities leveled, ancient knowledge lost. Hitler was a monster who lead a pack of monsters on a rampage that left Europe an economic, politcol and social ruin to be siezed by the Soviets or rebuilt by the Marshal Plan. My two dollars!

[Louise]

Originally Posted by somedude

Dash the war the Nazis started in Europe set civilization back by decades! Countless artists, scientists, mathmeticians, scholars and every other kind of thinker and doer were killed in that war and so many more went unborn because of the tens of millions of dead. Entire cultures were wiped out, cities leveled, ancient knowledge lost. Hitler was a monster who lead a pack of monsters on a rampage that left Europe an economic, politcol and social ruin to be siezed by the Soviets or rebuilt by the Marshal Plan. My two dollars!

[dashrendar44]

lol, i guess we can agree to disagree on that, but honestly, we were led to believe that in school which now that i think of it is pretty odd.....my economics teacher(jewish) actually gave us a lecture and handouts with all these facts about theoretically what the world would of been like without WWII and it was a pretty shitty world lol. and dont get me wrong, im no supporter of nazis or neonazis, im just saying that from an economical and buisiness related standpoint he did a large amount of good(imho at least) then again, i only have 32 posts and you have 2000 and your a mod, so we will see whos opinion will shine through lol. and i do agree with you 100% about the social destruction and crippling of the human race due to him. and insignia, they only voted for him because they were giving out free food and having huge parades for them, although to hitlers credit he was a hell of an orator lol. he took power of germany too, burned down the wutchamacall it(its been ages since i learned this lol) and started oppressing everyone, but it wasnt all their choice

[Louise]

Originally Posted by insignia0

well personally i still think some of them are nazis cause you got to remember who voted the nazi's in to power (the people) who lined the streets cheering for them when they was told of news of another victory (the people), so it wasnt as if it was really force dupon them the majority of the ppl supported them so this leads me to beleive that in these ppl minds the kids the parents who lined the streets this was a just war. so a fair few are still alive today and has there opinion really changed of the west i doubt it i still beleive they harbour those same thoughts and opinions that they had 70 yrs ago when they was lining the streets, i dont think that will change for another 20 yrs by which time everyone who was born in tht period or wud hve been old enough to make informed decisions woudl be dead then i think once they hve gone then i think the way ppl think of the germans will hve changed cuase it wud then be in history,

Lets not forget less than 30% actually voted the Nazis in...

[somedude]

Dash the British and US economies were already in full recovery by the beginning of the war in 39! Economic recovery for the rest of the world would have taken longer, but they would have been in better shape that the devastion most of the Eurasian landmass was left in. Japan's rampage in Asia could have been curtailed by a powerful British Empire and US as well...No good came from WW2!!!

[Louise]

Originally Posted by dashrendar44

lol, i guess we can agree to disagree on that, but honestly, we were led to believe that in school which now that i think of it is pretty odd.....my economics teacher(jewish) actually gave us a lecture and handouts with all these facts about theoretically what the world would of been like without WWII and it was a pretty shitty world lol. and dont get me wrong, im no supporter of nazis or neonazis, im just saying that from an economical and buisiness related standpoint he did a large amount of good(imho at least) then again, i only have 32 posts and you have 2000 and your a mod, so we will see whos opinion will shine through lol. and i do agree with you 100% about the social destruction and crippling of the human race due to him. and insignia, they only voted for him because they were giving out free food and having huge parades for them, although to hitlers credit he was a hell of an orator lol. he took power of germany too, burned down the wutchamacall it(its been ages since i learned this lol) and started oppressing everyone, but it wasnt all their choice

Again, I dissagree...economic cycles come and go, had WW2 been avoided somehow, captialism would have found a way...perhaps the earlier development of colonial territories...who knows? Even if we do argue the toss only on an economic front, the resulting disaster that led to Eastern Europe being enslaved and Soviet Russia being reinforced meant economic freedom has been perverted and retarded for 50 years.

Take the development of Jet Air craft. British engineers had plans to develop commercial Jet engines way back in the early 30s...commercial reasons as well as peacefull needs of the growing economies would have prompted their arrival even without WW2.

Sorry dash, just dont see the economic argument one little bit. It did allow the US to take over...in fact, one could argue the opposite, economically WW2 was a disaster for many areas...not least the former colonies of European powers.

[ego]

I am going to disagree.
Not in that Hitler was a shit, but in that nothing good came.
America found a way to get involved to world affairs, something they havent done to that moment (good for US, bad for the rest)
Israel found a country (well, i am not sure this is good)
Greek poor people found jobs in ruined and rebuilding Germany.
Constructions took a huge plus after the war was over.
The hostility created between west and soviets drove them to spent a huge amount of recources (money if you prefer) on evolution.
In a world that not everyone could have access to important things, happend a deduction of demand.
A new, ballanced era raised.Countries could live in stability.

I know, it could have happen with less cruelty and ferocities.
But in general, wars are necessary from time to time.Since always it was the only way for the world to keep going.Cos you know, there is not enough food to go round.
It sounds bad, its worst if you have lost people, but its the bitter truth.

[somedude]

Winston Churchhill himself called WW2 "The Unnecessary War"