Survey Question - Rape Board

Intheshadows · 07-19-2007, 11:38 AM

For the guys:You have a best friend(female) that you've known for a long time, she's very good looking and your attracted to her, but you are just friends and the relationship will never be romantic(she's in a committed relationship). You've pissed off the wrong person, who will permenantly scar/disfigure her if you don't rape her. She knows nothing about this threat and it would be very unlikely that she would believe your story if you raped her. The question is would you rape her or would you let her be scared?

For the ladies: Knowing the above situation would you want your friend to rape you? If he raped you and then told you why(he has no proof) what would you do?

RapeU · 07-19-2007, 11:41 AM

That's a tough one. Either have my best friend scared physically or emotionally...

I'd rape her.

ego · 07-19-2007, 12:22 PM

I guess if a crime has to happen, i would prefer the criminal be another, not myself.
But why informing her or going to the police isnt an option?

DominUncle · 07-19-2007, 12:31 PM

It's hard for me to imagine a situation in which I would have to choose between raping my friend and letting her be brutalized by another. But if such a scenario could be plausibly presented to me so that I believed it, I'd convince my friend that it was real and ask her her preference. I'd hope she chose me because then I could throw myself into saving her from a horrible fate.

If you have a convincing scenario, please share it with me. I have a couple of not-quite-that-good friends I wouldn't mind trying it out on.

Intheshadows · 07-19-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ego

I guess if a crime has to happen, i would prefer the criminal be another, not myself.
But why informing her or going to the police isnt an option?

They're watching you, and if you go to the cops or inform her things will only be worse.

Intheshadows · 07-19-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DominUncle

It's hard for me to imagine a situation in which I would have to choose between raping my friend and letting her be brutalized by another. But if such a scenario could be plausibly presented to me so that I believed it, I'd convince my friend that it was real and ask her her preference. I'd hope she chose me because then I could throw myself into saving her from a horrible fate.

If you have a convincing scenario, please share it with me. I have a couple of not-quite-that-good friends I wouldn't mind trying it out on.

This started as an idea for a story and I have a couple of scenarios in mind, but I wanted to do some research first hence the question.

DominUncle · 07-19-2007, 02:55 PM

ok ... you have a conundrum there. You need a scenario which is believable by me, otherwise I am under no compunction to even consider raping her.
YET the scenario has to be completely unbelievable by her .. otherwise I can convince her of the situation and she could have the choice of letting me fuck her to save herself from disfigurement, which is quite another matter, since I'm not all that unappealing.

I guess that's one of the ways to make a good story - an unbelievable situation made believable

GOATBOY · 07-19-2007, 03:21 PM

I'd find a way of protecting her. I'd offer myself up or somthing.

bit of a strange scruples question, seeing as there is no reason how this could ever happen.

Intheshadows · 07-19-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATBOY

I'd find a way of protecting her. I'd offer myself up or somthing.

bit of a strange scruples question, seeing as there is no reason how this could ever happen.

The sadistic person wanting this done who is looking for revenge on both of you, would not except your offer. Maybe you and/or your friend are both in law enforcement, maybe you or your friend has deeply offended the wrong person. This is of course fiction/fantasy so you have suspend your beliefs a bit but then again sometimes life is stranger than fiction. Think of the movie Kill Bill, twisted quite a bit.

ego · 07-19-2007, 05:07 PM

Well, fantasy or not, i grab my sword and i run his throat through!

Right maddog?

MADDOGMCMANAMAN · 07-19-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ego

Well, fantasy or not, i grab my sword and i run his throat through!

Right maddog?

HEAR HEAR EGO !!!!!

firstly i fuck all my female friends anyway !! and then their friends also

however then after we got it out our system some of them are my really good friends and if someone were to ask me to rape them or they would scar them !!....

i would grab that mutherfucker by the head and stick a blade so deep into his ass - that everytime he had to go toilet he would scream in agony for at least 5 years !! and i would tell him that if he even think of goin near my friend again - i will amputate him oldschool style !!

07-20-2007, 12:31 AM

Sorry.. it just sounds too far-fetched.

If that was me, I wouldn't believe it with nothing shown as evidence. I'd just think my dear friend had gone over the edge. And if attacked, I would either hurt him very bad or send him to jail... ta ta.. so long!

Jezebel · 07-20-2007, 04:40 PM

As this is an unbelivable fantasy, I would grab a knife and slaughter Sir Omnipotent Mystery Villian. Though honestly I would have to agree with DominUncle, I would ask her her preference, or be asked my preference if the situation ever could arise.

menace · 07-21-2007, 05:53 PM

I perform quite well under presure, so I would rape her. But before I did, I'd get hold of evidence as to why I did it, she'd forgive me and we'd live happily ever after.

Brio · 07-25-2007, 05:26 AM

This is just another version of a classic exercise in Ethics. The familiar version of this question goes something like this:

"You are in a Third World country, and are the leader of a small defenseless village. A local warlord comes to the village and informs you that if you do not execute ten of your villagers within 24 hours, he will return and kill everyone in the village. Do you execute ten innocent people to save the rest of the village, or not?"

The ethically correct answer is that you do not kill the ten innocent villagers, because the warlord, being a human being and not a force of nature, is responsible for his own actions and cannot transfer his ethical burden to you. In practical terms, this may very well result in your entire village being slaughtered, but since you don't know if the warlord really will return or not, and since his actions and the ethical burden that goes with them are his own and not yours, you cannot ethically kill innocent people.

DominUncle · 07-25-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brio

This is just another version of a classic exercise in Ethics...

True ... and not exactly. I've expressed my opinion (granted, a minority opinion) that most men are rapists at heart and in genes, that we are kept from acting on that biological drive, not by morals or ethics but solely by fear of detection; not just fear of legal punishment, but fear of censure by all women and the mealy mouth male apologists who deny their own feelings. Given that underlying attitude the conundrum you present is really an opportunity and an excuse to do what we really want to anyway. If you really had a believable scenario you'd make a lot of guys really happy.

Intheshadows · 07-25-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DominUncle

. If you really had a believable scenario you'd make a lot of guys really happy.

Then what about in a war, where your superiors have ordered you to commit rape against the women in the town that you've conquered. Would you commit the rape? This is obviously a believable scenario and is occuring as we speak in parts of Africa.

ego · 07-25-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Intheshadows

Would you commit the rape?

98% of the men i know would do it.

07-25-2007, 05:34 PM

One thing I've noticed about many of these survey questions lately is we seem to forget the fact that (even still today) rape is legal, socially accepted, and considered justified in many different cultures all over the world. Sometimes it is viewed as legitimate punishment for inappropriate behavior -- sometimes it's seen as the man's right if he so chooses where women are still considered property in literal terms.

So in these cases, if it's NOT the natural inclination of men in general... or if it's NOT something most men would actually do if they believe they can get away with it.... then where is the outrage against rape from those populations to stand up against the practice and outlaw it?

DominUncle · 07-25-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Intheshadows

Then what about in a war, where your superiors have ordered you to commit rape against the women in the town that you've conquered. Would you commit the rape? This is obviously a believable scenario and is occuring as we speak in parts of Africa.

The great thing about ethics CLASSES is they can isolate issues. In reality, things are always more complex. It's a shame WWII isn't taught much in schools or the answer to your question would be obvious. Given orders by a legally constituted government, supposedly civilized individuals will commit atrocities, even ones which have no appeal to them, against a designated population. Rape was one of the lesser crimes good Germans committed against Jews. Most took no pleasure in what they did, they simply did not have the backbone to stand up to their government when it abrogated basic human rights. We are as bad today but fortunately our leaders have yet to go that far.

While W has been compared to Hitler, the comparison is absurd. He has abrogated basic human rights for a designated group but the rights so far have been limited to habeus corpus, speedy trial by jury, etc. for the most part. While I'm sure some have been tortured such criminal acts have not been widespread. Still, the majority has accepted his actions, mostly because they don't affect us.

If you haven't heard of it, I'd advise you to google "first they came" .. a poem by Rev Martin Niemoller

Granted, that's all off the subject of the original post.
In a society that gives men an excuse for rape, YES, many if not most, take it. Would I? Probably not -- once you've had a daughter it changes your perspective.

07-19-2007, 11:38 AM	#1
Intheshadows Privileged Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,743 Reputation: 642	Survey Question For the guys:You have a best friend(female) that you've known for a long time, she's very good looking and your attracted to her, but you are just friends and the relationship will never be romantic(she's in a committed relationship). You've pissed off the wrong person, who will permenantly scar/disfigure her if you don't rape her. She knows nothing about this threat and it would be very unlikely that she would believe your story if you raped her. The question is would you rape her or would you let her be scared? For the ladies: Knowing the above situation would you want your friend to rape you? If he raped you and then told you why(he has no proof) what would you do?

07-19-2007, 11:41 AM	#2
RapeU Yes = No. No = Yes Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,412 Reputation: 33359	That's a tough one. Either have my best friend scared physically or emotionally... I'd rape her. __________________ Stories I have written. The Red Rose Rapist short stories Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Sugar Is Sweet, The Rapist Is You!? The Kidnapping Chronicles The Hunter, Huntress, LK, The Masked Marauder, Melinda's Tale, and The Masked Marauder II - Allen's Revenge Other Stories At My Cousin's Wedding

07-19-2007, 12:22 PM	#3
ego the obscure Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,457 Reputation: 14892	I guess if a crime has to happen, i would prefer the criminal be another, not myself. But why informing her or going to the police isnt an option? __________________ ..lure them all into the abyss!

07-19-2007, 12:31 PM	#4
DominUncle Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 128 Reputation: 103	conundrum It's hard for me to imagine a situation in which I would have to choose between raping my friend and letting her be brutalized by another. But if such a scenario could be plausibly presented to me so that I believed it, I'd convince my friend that it was real and ask her her preference. I'd hope she chose me because then I could throw myself into saving her from a horrible fate. If you have a convincing scenario, please share it with me. I have a couple of not-quite-that-good friends I wouldn't mind trying it out on. __________________ A gentleman knows that manners are important in all endeavors, especially those in which compliance is mandatory.

07-19-2007, 02:55 PM	#7
DominUncle Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 128 Reputation: 103	conundrum ok ... you have a conundrum there. You need a scenario which is believable by me, otherwise I am under no compunction to even consider raping her. YET the scenario has to be completely unbelievable by her .. otherwise I can convince her of the situation and she could have the choice of letting me fuck her to save herself from disfigurement, which is quite another matter, since I'm not all that unappealing. I guess that's one of the ways to make a good story - an unbelievable situation made believable __________________ A gentleman knows that manners are important in all endeavors, especially those in which compliance is mandatory.

07-19-2007, 03:21 PM	#8
GOATBOY Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: london uk Posts: 627 Reputation: 4793	I'd find a way of protecting her. I'd offer myself up or somthing. bit of a strange scruples question, seeing as there is no reason how this could ever happen. __________________ HAPPINESS IS A DRY PUSSY

07-19-2007, 05:07 PM	#10
ego the obscure Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,457 Reputation: 14892	Well, fantasy or not, i grab my sword and i run his throat through! Right maddog? __________________ ..lure them all into the abyss!

07-20-2007, 12:31 AM	#12
Sephy Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry.. it just sounds too far-fetched. If that was me, I wouldn't believe it with nothing shown as evidence. I'd just think my dear friend had gone over the edge. And if attacked, I would either hurt him very bad or send him to jail... ta ta.. so long!

07-20-2007, 04:40 PM	#13
Jezebel Melana's Pudding Cup Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Neutral Milk Hotel Posts: 319 Reputation: 286	As this is an unbelivable fantasy, I would grab a knife and slaughter Sir Omnipotent Mystery Villian. Though honestly I would have to agree with DominUncle, I would ask her her preference, or be asked my preference if the situation ever could arise. __________________ lay your belly under mine you're naked under me, under me such a filthy dimming shine the way you kick and scream, kick and scream

07-21-2007, 05:53 PM	#14
menace Privileged Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Who knows? Posts: 2,436 Reputation: 26964	I perform quite well under presure, so I would rape her. But before I did, I'd get hold of evidence as to why I did it, she'd forgive me and we'd live happily ever after. __________________ Try and stop me

07-25-2007, 05:26 AM	#15
Brio Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Reputation: 37	This is just another version of a classic exercise in Ethics. The familiar version of this question goes something like this: "You are in a Third World country, and are the leader of a small defenseless village. A local warlord comes to the village and informs you that if you do not execute ten of your villagers within 24 hours, he will return and kill everyone in the village. Do you execute ten innocent people to save the rest of the village, or not?" The ethically correct answer is that you do not kill the ten innocent villagers, because the warlord, being a human being and not a force of nature, is responsible for his own actions and cannot transfer his ethical burden to you. In practical terms, this may very well result in your entire village being slaughtered, but since you don't know if the warlord really will return or not, and since his actions and the ethical burden that goes with them are his own and not yours, you cannot ethically kill innocent people.

07-25-2007, 05:34 PM	#19
Sephy Guest Posts: n/a	One thing I've noticed about many of these survey questions lately is we seem to forget the fact that (even still today) rape is legal, socially accepted, and considered justified in many different cultures all over the world. Sometimes it is viewed as legitimate punishment for inappropriate behavior -- sometimes it's seen as the man's right if he so chooses where women are still considered property in literal terms. So in these cases, if it's NOT the natural inclination of men in general... or if it's NOT something most men would actually do if they believe they can get away with it.... then where is the outrage against rape from those populations to stand up against the practice and outlaw it?