Does molestation count as rape? - Rape Board

Raper of Anime · 05-18-2006, 11:09 AM

The definition of "molest" is to bother, annoy, or persecute.

However, when we think of the word molest, the first thing we generally think of is someone touching someone in an unpleasant sexual way, even though the definition of "molest" says nothing about actually touching anyone.

I suppose you could bother someone just by touching their arm or shoulder while they're in a bad mood, but would that really count as rape?

shysnale · 05-18-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Raper of Anime

The definition of "molest" is to bother, annoy, or persecute.

However, when we think of the word molest, the first thing we generally think of is someone touching someone in an unpleasant sexual way, even though the definition of "molest" says nothing about actually touching anyone.

I suppose you could bother someone just by touching their arm or shoulder while they're in a bad mood, but would that really count as rape?

Not here in France. They talked about it on the news lately. They call that 'Sexual touch' or something like that. But not rape..

05-18-2006, 01:03 PM

no

thats why its called MOLESTATION and not RAPE, two different words, for two different things

if it was the same thing, it would only be ONE FUCkING WORD!

pravjey · 05-18-2006, 01:22 PM

I guess there isn't much more to say on that.

Rape (forced penetration) and molestation have different meanings in law.

Watcher1530 · 05-18-2006, 02:12 PM

"I guess there isn't much more to say on that."

Ohhh, ya think sooo....

But the question was "Does molestation count as Rape".

It doesn't just restrict you to the dictionary, the wording is not precise enough. You have at least 2 personal views, that of the victim and that of the rapist. The victim may well strongly disagree, it likely that they'd see it as being 2 different but unpleasant experiences. But for the rapist both might be equally satisfying for it not to matter too much to them. Frankly I find the idea of touching up a woman is equally as arousing for me as fucking her or raping her brains out. In fact entry on it's own would be rather uninspiring.

I know that the law may disagree, but as the number of cases that go near the courts shows, it's got damn near fuck all to do with the law.

05-18-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Watcher1530

"I guess there isn't much more to say on that."

Ohhh, ya think sooo....

But the question was "Does molestation count as Rape".

It doesn't just restrict you to the dictionary, the wording is not precise enough. You have at least 2 personal views, that of the victim and that of the rapist. The victim may well strongly disagree, it likely that they'd see it as being 2 different but unpleasant experiences. But for the rapist both might be equally satisfying for it not to matter too much to them. Frankly I find the idea of touching up a woman is equally as arousing for me as fucking her or raping her brains out. In fact entry on it's own would be rather uninspiring.

I know that the law may disagree, but as the number of cases that go near the courts shows, it's got damn near fuck all to do with the law.

opinions are like assholes, everyones got one

Rheostatic · 05-18-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by persiangurl

opinions are like assholes, everyones got one

...and they're usually full of shit.

pravjey · 05-18-2006, 04:44 PM

I guess, from the victim's point of view, molestation can be as bad as rape but I don't think it could be worse than rape.

kinkyone · 05-19-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rheostatic

...and they're usually full of shit.

....therefor i think i'll keep all of them to myself....

'cause [opinion] i don't think there's much to be said that has'nt been already said

[asshole] i don't want anyone messing around with

and [shit] may offend you ...lol

Raper of Anime · 05-20-2006, 03:05 PM

What about 'finger fucking'? Wouldn't that count as forced penetration (rape) even though it's with a finger or fingers instead of a penis, or would that be molestation (simple touching)?

Throatdagger · 05-20-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by persiangurl

opinions are like assholes, everyones got one

Some are just bigger than others!

somedude · 05-20-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Throatdagger

Some are just bigger than others!

Again what Throatdagger is trying to say is, mikhamet, bÃƒÂ¦d juri mikhamet, darÃƒÂ¦m divuneh mishÃƒÂ¦m!

joehill · 05-21-2006, 03:09 PM

That depends on how good a lawyer you can afford

prey4me · 01-24-2007, 04:11 AM

rape is the unwanted penetration by penis, digit (finger, etc.) or object.

"Indecent Assault and Battery" is unwanted touching (e.g. groping) that falls short of penetration.

Various jurisidictions have refinements, such as "aggravated" which may include the use of a weapon, severe force/fear, injury, and so on. Then some jurisidictions use the terms "first degree, second degree etc." The specifics on these vary from place to place, and prosecution to prosecution.

05-18-2006, 11:09 AM	#1
Raper of Anime Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47 Reputation: 10	Does molestation count as rape? The definition of "molest" is to bother, annoy, or persecute. However, when we think of the word molest, the first thing we generally think of is someone touching someone in an unpleasant sexual way, even though the definition of "molest" says nothing about actually touching anyone. I suppose you could bother someone just by touching their arm or shoulder while they're in a bad mood, but would that really count as rape? Last edited by Raper of Anime; 05-18-2006 at 11:12 AM.

05-18-2006, 01:03 PM	#3
persiangurl Guest Posts: n/a	no thats why its called MOLESTATION and not RAPE, two different words, for two different things if it was the same thing, it would only be ONE FUCkING WORD!

05-18-2006, 01:22 PM	#4
pravjey Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 150 Reputation: 65	I guess there isn't much more to say on that. Rape (forced penetration) and molestation have different meanings in law.

05-18-2006, 02:12 PM	#5
Watcher1530 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North West Posts: 21 Reputation: 502	"I guess there isn't much more to say on that." Ohhh, ya think sooo.... But the question was "Does molestation count as Rape". It doesn't just restrict you to the dictionary, the wording is not precise enough. You have at least 2 personal views, that of the victim and that of the rapist. The victim may well strongly disagree, it likely that they'd see it as being 2 different but unpleasant experiences. But for the rapist both might be equally satisfying for it not to matter too much to them. Frankly I find the idea of touching up a woman is equally as arousing for me as fucking her or raping her brains out. In fact entry on it's own would be rather uninspiring. I know that the law may disagree, but as the number of cases that go near the courts shows, it's got damn near fuck all to do with the law.

05-18-2006, 04:44 PM	#8
pravjey Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 150 Reputation: 65	I guess, from the victim's point of view, molestation can be as bad as rape but I don't think it could be worse than rape.

05-20-2006, 03:05 PM	#10
Raper of Anime Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47 Reputation: 10	What about 'finger fucking'? Wouldn't that count as forced penetration (rape) even though it's with a finger or fingers instead of a penis, or would that be molestation (simple touching)?

05-21-2006, 03:09 PM	#13
joehill Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 49 Reputation: 13	That depends on how good a lawyer you can afford

01-24-2007, 04:11 AM	#14
prey4me Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 482 Reputation: 5552	rape is the unwanted penetration by penis, digit (finger, etc.) or object. "Indecent Assault and Battery" is unwanted touching (e.g. groping) that falls short of penetration. Various jurisidictions have refinements, such as "aggravated" which may include the use of a weapon, severe force/fear, injury, and so on. Then some jurisidictions use the terms "first degree, second degree etc." The specifics on these vary from place to place, and prosecution to prosecution.