What's going on here

[Noir]

Assuming Rapidshare is ran by reasonable people they will immediately delete every password protected file that is reported. It is always safer to assume that those files have for example child porn than ignore them which might result in losing millions due lawsuits. The user who uploaded the files does have the 7 day waiting period to complain about his files being reported and prove that the material was not against the rules.

By the way whining at uploaders is the worst possible solution to do at this point since some of them might even be frustrated enough to quit uploading content permanently after everything that has taken place in here...

[JMarc411]

yeah i agree. some people put the post counts to a ridiculous number although I agree that measures must be taken to keep this forum safe for people to use

[Lemarchand]

For my own two cent's worth, I feel that the quota system should not be based upon the amount of post you have.
I would rather see the amount of reputation you have be the contributing factor.
This will actually have the associated effect of increasing peoples post counts anyway because you have to post good content to attract the reputation points from other users.
So in one swoop you will significantly reduce the amount of people posting nothing just to get the count up...they will have to think about what they are going to say to get the rep.

You also gain the benefit of greater protection for the links...

This is because if someone really wants to report them as is believed by many here, then they are really going to have to involve themselves on the board...which may be personally difficult for them if they are a religious crusader as some suspect.

So who's with me...who would rather see reputation be the deciding factor for those who wish to protect their links?

Regards,

Lemarchand

[barbar]

Dear Friends
About deleting problem firstifull we must put all our knowledge to the desk.
My only information is that mediafire or any other upload supporting sites are not deleting files like rapid does.(at least for now)
I must learn that did any of the files that has been hidden,even with 1 or 2 post requirements,deleted?If it is not so,than rapid is using some kind of search engine.If it is so than there is again one more questions to ask:
Is it only this sites (and some twin sites) users unjustly treatened like this?

[Ivor]

It's a tricky one.

Post count required to download but slaps on the wrist for spamming = fewer people able to download so fewer people able to post valid comments on threads meaning less new members meaning less uploads and it's a vicious circle (arguably)

But no post count required means anyone has access to the links and someone somewhere reporting those links means no movies to download at all.

Answers on a postcard from me I'm afraid.

Actually I did have one suggestion which I hope will be seen as constructive.

Why not drop the post count required to a lower level, but then raise it over time?

So drop it from what to some must seem like an unachievable amount - especially if saying thanks now isn't really cutting it (I could suggest, maybe, 16? ) But then raising it by 10 each month, or 20 every two months?

That may help people to contribute enough to get the benefit from the board and keep people involved, without fuelling the perceived need to spam.

I appreciate that it doesn't really solve someone coming onto the board in a year's time and finding a post count in the 200s, but at that point my brain started hurting and it's Friday.

[raper]

I'm with you on this one Salamander. This board has to do something better than limit members to see content based on the post count. I've seen this already in other boards and SPAM is the end result. With the SPAM comes Slower Page Loads, Too Many Pages To Go Through Before You Find What You Are Looking For, And Way To Many Thank You Replies. Don't get me wrong, I like the thank you replies, but now you will get them for post count too, not just for your hard work.

I was thinking about the [HIDE] thing based on your reputation, but the downside of that is that will scare off most people with low rep and scare off new users. That's something a board shouldn't do, unless they don't care about growing.

It was a good try, but RB has to look at the downside of this. For the past week, I have been seeing slower loading of the pages on this board.

And who knows, there could be a rat or there might not be a rat. And if there was a rat, it could be any one of us (members, non-members).

[Ivor]

Originally Posted by Lemarchand

For my own two cent's worth, I feel that the quota system should not be based upon the amount of post you have.
I would rather see the amount of reputation you have be the contributing factor.
This will actually have the associated effect of increasing peoples post counts anyway because you have to post good content to attract the reputation points from other users.
So in one swoop you will significantly reduce the amount of people posting nothing just to get the count up...they will have to think about what they are going to say to get the rep.

You also gain the benefit of greater protection for the links...

This is because if someone really wants to report them as is believed by many here, then they are really going to have to involve themselves on the board...which may be personally difficult for them if they are a religious crusader as some suspect.

So who's with me...who would rather see reputation be the deciding factor for those who wish to protect their links?

Regards,

Lemarchand

Actually this is a much better suggestion than mine. I vote for Lemarchand's idea.

[Lemarchand]

Originally Posted by raper

I was thinking about the [HIDE] thing based on your reputation, but the downside of that is that will scare off most people with low rep and scare off new users. That's something a board shouldn't do, unless they don't care about growing.

It's a good point you make raper, however I am sure that there are a large percentage of the new spam posters who aren't particularly into themes of rape and other fetish's, but just look upon the board as a way to get nasty porn quick and easy.
So the question then becomes do we want those people?
From my perspective I would much rather the members be interested in our fetish's, and involve themselves accordingly...and the reputation system may be a smarter way of achieving this.

And it wouldn't be all bad for the lurker's because I am sure other peoples files, like mine, will remain restriction free.

Regards,

Lemarchand

[raper]

Originally Posted by Ivor

It's a tricky one.

Post count required to download but slaps on the wrist for spamming = fewer people able to download so fewer people able to post valid comments on threads meaning less new members meaning less uploads and it's a vicious circle (arguably)

But no post count required means anyone has access to the links and someone somewhere reporting those links means no movies to download at all.

Answers on a postcard from me I'm afraid.

Actually I did have one suggestion which I hope will be seen as constructive.

Why not drop the post count required to a lower level, but then raise it over time?

So drop it from what to some must seem like an unachievable amount - especially if saying thanks now isn't really cutting it (I could suggest, maybe, 16? ) But then raising it by 10 each month, or 20 every two months?

That may help people to contribute enough to get the benefit from the board and keep people involved, without fuelling the perceived need to spam.

I appreciate that it doesn't really solve someone coming onto the board in a year's time and finding a post count in the 200s, but at that point my brain started hurting and it's Friday.

Now that's a good idea. But maybe RB should base the post count needed on the number of months that you are a member (like 10 post per month). For example, I've been a member since July. That means I would need a total of 20 posts to view the hidden content. I would also have to participate with another 10 post to keep viewing the hidden content for the next month and so on. That should keep everyone happy, get people to get involved, slower the spamming, and raise the speed of the page loads. Just a suggestion though. Maybe, if starting something like this, everyone should start with the 10 post count and begin from there.

[teco]

Originally Posted by Stainless Steel Rat

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Which files are allowed to be uploaded?

All files that do not violate our terms of service or the laws of concerned countries. This means that files violating copyrights, or containing pornography, are forbidden and will be removed as soon as we notice. If you see such files on Megaupload, we would be glad if you notified us


And from Mediafire:

Clipped from the MF acceptable use policy:

You agree while using MediaFire Services, that you may not:

Promote an illegal or unauthorized copy of another person's copyrighted work;

Submit Content that is libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, abusive, harassing, threatening, unlawful or promotes or encourages illegal activity;

Just like RS and all the other "well-known" file sharing sites out there if you actually read their legal documentation they all put pornography into the taboo category to protect themselves. They put the burden on the user and leave it to other users to police the system. As I have stated before they have better things to do than look for violations otherwise RS would have to delete more than half it's content immediately {probably closer to 90% if you think about it}.

...

First of all, these file sharing sites have to write all of this kind of information. If there is no information about the illegal content they will be in position to allow illegal content ( what they do in reality)
WHY? the porn staffs are the most shared files on the net and if you are not popular as rapid you need this kind of uploads. So they deny theoretically BUT it is allowed practically.

If you go to download or upload something to megatronic for example, first of all you will see the advertising of an site wich presents online sex chat

Originally Posted by Lemarchand

..who would rather see reputation be the deciding factor for those who wish to protect their links?

you are here since 2 months and your reputation points are 288
i am here since februrary 2006 and my reputation points are 34
so a very new member can easily surmount that limit, ok i know that you are a active meber and i m not but what i mean this is not an ideal solution.

[theDarkOne]

Originally Posted by [m[o_o]m]

anybody want some cheese with their whine?0 movies posted and then suddenly they are motivated by inconvenience? ( a couple of you guys are old time members and i respect your posts...just gets under my skin these lurkers come out of the woodwork...

Damn that was funny and i agree with what you said.

Salamander,i respect that you have your own opinion but i think its ignorant and i disagree with everything you wrote.Something had to be done about the deletion problem and instead of rolling with it you all complain.Why don't you take the time and try to post some movies and then you may understand what your complaining about.
As for you people who have been a part of this board for a long time i do feel like something should be done for you all.Why not contact the mods about it and maybe they can help on a case by case basis.

[dinker99]

Well, I refuse to spam and only make what I consider constructive comments. I find my post count is creeping up so it`s not necessary to spam.

[theDarkOne]

Originally Posted by dinker99

Well, I refuse to spam and only make what I consider constructive comments. I find my post count is creeping up so it`s not necessary to spam.

Good for you ,plus you get rep from me!

[inc]

I've never posted a message, but IMHO, there are some kind of a strange thinking here.

If here is a rat, than not any counting system will solve the problem, because the rat will do the rat's way: post as many post as needed to get the links. If there is no rat, than even a "single post" is quite enough to eliminate the bot robots, because they will not post anything - so they will be not able to get the links.

If You need posts to see the postings, then there will be no new members, because they will ask for permission, or they will post hundreds of useless posts... hundred member times hundreds of posts will genrerate a big rate, but there will be tens of pages of SCAM and SPAM without any postings... and I think, it's a very disappointing look, because You shell check hundreds of posts and what You shell see? Nothing, but useless posts... and if there will be any good posting, what shell You see? 100-300 post required? I can post hundreds of thanks but it's not a real thank You, but it will be a f*ck You, because You shell see a hundred of useless topic...

Dear old members, do You really want to see 10 pages of NOTHING?! I understand to download without any response could be disappointing, but to get NOT A REAL thank You, but a POST COUNT really makes You feel better?

I do not think so.

And please do not forget - even if You will know, the rat is a member, how will You figure out WHICH member is the rat? And than? What shell be the next step?

I think, just because a rat, You don't need to turn this place a junkyard...

Sorry to say it folks, but IMHO You will ruin this place completly this way.

And I will feel really sorry for this, and I will even leave this place without any useless post against to post hundreds of "thanks" to any topic to ruin all the others amusements.

Thank You for reading my opinions.

[FuzzyCuff]

Originally Posted by raper

Now that's a good idea. But maybe RB should base the post count needed on the number of months that you are a member (like 10 post per month). For example, I've been a member since July. That means I would need a total of 20 posts to view the hidden content. I would also have to participate with another 10 post to keep viewing the hidden content for the next month and so on. That should keep everyone happy, get people to get involved, slower the spamming, and raise the speed of the page loads. Just a suggestion though. Maybe, if starting something like this, everyone should start with the 10 post count and begin from there.

Wow that's a really good idea...
It pretty much does what the current system is intended to do... but in a much more natural way. Another thing I was thinking about at work today... (yeah on occasion my brain actually does fire up for a second or two while at work) since I'm usually one that will use the +rep with an attached more personalized message of thanks... I've always thought it was just a better way of showing appreciation without flooding the forums with pages of off-topic "thanks" "thanks for the vids" etc...

I've only been a member here for a couple weeks now? I think I found this site... then two or three days later this new post count system started.

[theDarkOne]

Originally Posted by inc

Dear old members, do You really want to see 10 pages of NOTHING?! I understand to download without any response could be disappointing, but to get NOT A REAL thank You, but a POST COUNT really makes You feel better?

They did not do this for thank yous or to make them feel good.They did this to try and stop their links from being deleted.You have no clue what you are talking about and the way you wrote it is insulting

[Dirty dog]

Originally Posted by dinker99

Well, I refuse to spam and only make what I consider constructive comments. I find my post count is creeping up so it`s not necessary to spam.

Originally Posted by marisha

this really is a prob. I hate spamming, and I won't but I really want to download some stuff now and can not. so I have to make all those postings for just posting count reason. still I won't spam. I will try to make sense with all my posts. but why? the reason for some of my posts (some) still will be to just raise a postcount.

Totally agreed. I respect the uploaders therefore when I thanked them I am really meant about it. And about the postcount...I really don't care it will raise up eventually in time

[inc]

Originally Posted by theDarkOne

They did not do this for thank yous or to make them feel good.They did this to try and stop their links from being deleted.You have no clue what you are talking about and the way you wrote it is insulting

I think, You totally missed my point.

This system will NOT stop deleting the posts in any way, because a required 1-300 postcount will generate only spam and nothing else. It's not insulting, but an opinion - simply take a look around, the posts are sometimes still deleted or still not, but for sure there are a lot's of useless posts. That's the only output of this system.

So, if You enjoy to see a lot's of thread without anything but spam, then sorry for the inconvenience, I've preferred this site for example for the very good moderating system, but currently it's also not working... If You wish to see a daily 230 new posts topics, than it's the right future for You, becuse it's some kind of an SM party, to take a look around, is there even a single post, You can get without spamming all over the site.

Please also notice, that rapidshare usually deletes ONE user's posts, and it happens all over the net, in every board. There is nothing new in it. I've seen it several times, when some kind of a rat reports a nick to rapidhsare, and after this all of the user's posts will be removed almost immediately, which is a very disappointing thing for somebody, who spent days, or even weeks to upload them.

The only way to not to delete the post is to not to post the links. But in this case You don't need a board but only a PM system in which You can share the links for Yourself, which will surely solve the problem.

And, just a simple thought for You: The RAT will act just like a friend, and will do all the requestments to get the information, because the RAT enjoys this. You will never get the rat this way, but You will create a lot's of spammers from the friendly users.

If that's Your goal, than You are on the right way.

[inc]

Just for fun: I really appreciate a site, on which an opinion deserves a negative reputation, against to the spammers who will receive the right to download the posts and the possibility to report them to rapidshare. What a brilliant logic!!!

Anyway, a poster who checks only his own thread it could be fun, but for somebody who reads the complete site it's a real headache to check hundreds of threads without any ON topic message. Anyway it's also the same headache for a poster, who intend to download somebody else's posts, or even to try to clean up his thread (Fe: Sanitarium)...

So, just for fun, the solution is very simple if You ask me: You need to count, how many reputation was given by the current member. If the member gaved for example 10 reputation, than he is a good member, who REALLY thanks for a post, but to count the posts or to check the reputation is the worst idea I can imagine.

[inc]

And just for last for now.

Today I've checked 200+ topics after I pressed the "New posts" link, which was a totally disappointment, because there were only and mostly "Thx", "thanks", but no real posts.

I don't think, it's only my problem and the posters like this.

But and ayway, that's life, as anybody can say...

But it's not all. AFTER this, for fun, I've checked the forum again for new posts... and there were 156(!) topic shown up, with new posts immediately... What do You think, who will restart to check them again? And what do You think, who is the only one, who will surely enjoys this:

YES, the RAT.

Because the rat is the only one who enjoys this scam, because it's the rat's life, and that's the rat's goal, and the rat is continously LOL upon You. Because even the rat reports, even not, the site is going to be useless, and the rat will achive the rat's goal: There will be less REAL posts and less downloads. Even without a single report...

So, please add me some more negative reputation, and plese give privileges to the spammers to support THE RAT. What a crasy world here...