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Old 05-20-2012, 04:52 AM   #1
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My fantasies never involve the victim enjoying it. It's always a rough taking, with struggle, crying and humiliation.

So I want to understand the need to have the victim enjoying the rape.

Is it a guilt factor, where it isn't as bad if she liked it too?

Or power, where she started off not liking it and you made her like it?

Maybe something else entirely?
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:39 AM   #2
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No idea. I do however, love a bitch that knows her place and willingly takes it however I want to give it. As for enjoying the rape - there's no need or place for that.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:27 AM   #3
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If she enjoys it, it adds to her humiliation and degradation. The rapists can mock her for it, telling her that they knew all along that she is a willing little slut. They might even force her to thank them afterwards, for fucking her and teaching her what her place is.

So yeah, even though it doesn't always happen in my fantasies, when they do, it's for those reasons.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:54 AM   #4
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I definately like to force her to orgasm. One reason to have the girl tied up. Get her off first, even before raping her, with a vibrator. Then have my way with her the first time. Then a dildo strapped to a power vibe goes back in to drive her to orgasm afer orgasm. I love watching a woman cum against her will.
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I'm all about the control and humiliation, BUT... in all honesty nothing turns me on quite like a girl having an orgasm... the stronger the better!
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I don't get it either. My fantasies are of taking pleasure from a woman while causing her nothing but misery. having her like it would just ruin it for me. To me it's not a rape fantasy if the bitch enjoys anything that's happening for even a second.
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:40 AM   #7
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I don't get it either. My fantasies are of taking pleasure from a woman while causing her nothing but misery. having her like it would just ruin it for me. To me it's not a rape fantasy if the bitch enjoys anything that's happening for even a second.
You are right, enjoying the rape would ruin the best rape fantasy. I mean if anybody have fantasizes about slavery that only starts with rape and turn later into regions where the women is only life to enjoy your cock then it is ok to build it in, but in a pure rape fantasy it has no right to exist, because it's statement speaks against all what a rape fantasy amounts to.
When a women enjoy this it is no big difference from normal sex and I don't understand when someone use this in his fantasy.
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I'm not particularly bothered either way about the girls feelings. If she is enjoying it it just makes it easier I suppose, less trouble. Can always dish out a bit of a beating afterward to make up for her pleasure.
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I don't get it either. My fantasies are of taking pleasure from a woman while causing her nothing but misery. having her like it would just ruin it for me. To me it's not a rape fantasy if the bitch enjoys anything that's happening for even a second.
Hear, hear! I agree wholeheartedly!
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:45 PM   #10
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It really wouldn't matter to me either way if my victim enjoys it somehow. Whether she comes or not while I raping her ass or whipping it, or fucking her mouth makes no difference.

Unless it means I've finally broken the bitch in...in that case, other...opportunities open up. It's much better for me if she continues to struggle...
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:17 PM   #11
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As other posters stated, it's one way of increasing her humiliation. It's more mental and emotional punishment than physical. Start with a woman who has a fuckable body, but covers it up and hides it ... break down her defenses, layer by layer ... first, her shock, then fear as her body is exposed, then anguish and horror as I penetrate her ... humiliation as she feels her body respond, and I tell her what a filthy slut she is ... forcing her body to climax, even as her mind is fighting it, just establishes my power and control over her.

The greatest mental image for me is a woman sobbing and screaming "NOO!" as she climaxes.

I do sometimes imagine being more brutal ... in those fantasies, I'm angry or have a grudge against the woman and am just out to hurt her and break her. There has to be some reason for her to deserve it.
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Pain and misery is what rape is all about. It is the feeling that you can do anything to her that you want to do no matter how much pain it causes her, or humiliation. So if I thought the bitch would be even more hurt or humiliated if she had an orgasm while I raped her I might try to get her there but I would rather just put her down and take her as hard as I can.
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As the potential victim I'll say, I shouldn't be enjoying it. I should be hurt, crying and traumatised. Its afterwards that I get my pleasure. When the endorphins start flowing. So bring it on guys! If I'm not fucked up when you're done you haven't raped me right

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As the potential victim I'll say, I shouldn't be enjoying it. I should be hurt, crying and traumatised. Its afterwards that I get my pleasure. When the endorphins start flowing. So bring it on guys! If I'm not fucked up when you're done you haven't raped me right

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As the potential victim I'll say, I shouldn't be enjoying it. I should be hurt, crying and traumatised. Its afterwards that I get my pleasure. When the endorphins start flowing. So bring it on guys! If I'm not fucked up when you're done you haven't raped me right

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In my opinion, if the victim enjoys it then the rapist has failed in their duty..... Rape is not just a sexual activity, it is about control and power.
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As other posters stated, it's one way of increasing her humiliation. It's more mental and emotional punishment than physical. Start with a woman who has a fuckable body, but covers it up and hides it ... break down her defenses, layer by layer ... first, her shock, then fear as her body is exposed, then anguish and horror as I penetrate her ... humiliation as she feels her body respond, and I tell her what a filthy slut she is ... forcing her body to climax, even as her mind is fighting it, just establishes my power and control over her.
Couldn't have said it better. In my fantasies, the victim doesn't really "enjoy" it. Her body is responding in a way her mind doesn't approve of. It's about the humiliation. Call if "forced pleasure" if you want, and the embarrassment of knowing that her perpetrators and witnesses are detecting her response, but it's not like she's going to say, "Oh, that was fun!" afterward.
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i would imagine it's humiliation but i don't make the women enjoy it my rapes.
I will make a male enjoy it when he's raped by a female because his enjoyment shows that even when he's resisting she is bringing desire within him, controlling him, even when she's the rapist. so it ruins what little control he has remaining and he becomes her dog. plus she can't use his member if it's limp, can she?
for the girls they don't generally need stimulation for the male rapist to work, the basic need on wether the rapist is male or female is that they control the vic in their own manner and show the vic how helpless they are to stop it.
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No idea. I do however, love a bitch that knows her place and willingly takes it however I want to give it.....
Me too. I want them fearful and compliant is all.
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