Illegal downloaders could face ban - UK - Rape Board

02-12-2008, 05:47 PM

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200802...t-fa6b408.html

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain could follow France in cutting Internet access to users who repeatedly download music or films illegally.

The government had given the music and film industries a year to come to a voluntary agreement with Internet Service Providers over how to tackle illegal file sharing, but that timeframe expired at the end of 2007.

With no sign of an agreement in place, it is due to publish its options in a strategy document in the coming weeks and a separate consultation later in the year to examine how it can cut down on piracy.

One suggestion put forward by the music industry is to adopt the French model, where warning messages are sent to those who frequently download music or films illegally.

If the messages are ignored, users can have their accounts suspended or closed altogether.

The body representing Internet Service Providers (ISPs) says they would prefer a voluntary agreement but the music industry argues it has been forced to demand legal action after rampant Internet piracy rocked its traditional revenue model.

A report in the Times on Tuesday suggested ISPs could be legally required to take action against users who accessed pirated material.

An alternative system would be based on filtering, which could block illegal files from being downloaded.

Global music sales were down around 10 percent in 2007 and the international music trade body, the IFPI group, estimates that tens of billions of illegal tracks were swapped in the year.

But John Kennedy, the head of the IFPI, said the mood was turning towards ISPs having to take more responsibility for cracking down on illegal activity.

"It is simply not acceptable for ISPs to turn a blind eye to the piracy on their networks which is at such a rate that there are 20 illegal music downloads for every legal track sold," he said in a statement.

"Record companies have licensed more than six million tracks to over 500 legal services and consumers can now legitimately get access to music online in a wide variety of ways.

"If the French and British governments take action and others follow, there will be more room for the legal market to something for nothing' deal available on the illegal networks that do not invest a penny in generating new music."

A spokeswoman for the Department of Culture, Media and Sport declined to comment on what options would feature in the strategy report.

02-12-2008, 05:50 PM

Also this was on the BBC news as well and they stated the way they would check is to at random view both music and movie files you download using there ISP servers.

LOL, they are in for a bit of a shock, however this does have implications for UK members, if they do view that you are downloading rape fantasy porn it is now illegal under the obscene publications act to have it with a three year jail term so they may pass that info onto the police that you have downloaded some.

FinalKey · 02-12-2008, 08:46 PM

Damn, glad I'm not living in the UK...but I know the US will follow along shortly.

touriquet2001 · 02-12-2008, 09:14 PM

i have a friend that lives in Tennessee .where they live at the isp checks for porn sites and blocks you from browsing them . if they deem they are not in the community guidelines .

Sanitarium · 02-12-2008, 09:20 PM

I guess that means ....

Download while you can!

ego · 02-13-2008, 06:08 AM

Excuse me? They have the right to check what you download?

And rape fantasy movies are illegal in UK?

MADDOGMCMANAMAN · 02-13-2008, 06:47 AM

thats such a fucking load of bullshit - mutherfuckers

btw - just wondering how do they know what is porn or not ?? eg. if i dl a winrar file labelled just "r" or "b" but it contained porn - how would they know ?

02-13-2008, 06:48 AM

ISPs must know better than the rest of us that if they actually close accounts or turn in customers who use the internet for such things, they'd quickly run themselves out of business. Isn't it something like 80 percent of internet users actually use the service for porn on a regular basis? (Heh.. they'd have to build lots more whorehouses!)

Granted, the movie and music industries have an awful lot of power. But if my ISP started to restrict my usage to that point, I'd soon have little use for this myself. We'd all probably lose interest in browsing if everything was monitored that strictly.

02-13-2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephy

ISPs must know better than the rest of us that if they actually close accounts or turn in customers who use the internet for such things, they'd quickly run themselves out of business. Isn't it something like 80 percent of internet users actually use the service for porn on a regular basis? (Heh.. they'd have to build lots more whorehouses!)

Granted, the movie and music industries have an awful lot of power. But if my ISP started to restrict my usage to that point, I'd soon have little use for this myself. We'd all probably lose interest in browsing if everything was monitored that strictly.

Unfortuntely its not the ISP's that are pushing for the change, its the government that have been pressured by the music industry and the government is going to clamp down on this fairly soon by forcing the ISP's too and to be fair the ISP's are supporting it, all our phone lines are owned via British Telecom, even if you internet or phone is provided by another company it will be BT that cuts you off.

Ego - Yes rape porn and other extreme violent porn is illegal to have on your computer in the UK, the law recently came in last year, there has yet to be a case go to court as yet so its un-proven ground at the moment.

This came about then a teacher was raped, tortured and murdered in the UK and the silly fucker that did it admitted he go his "ideas/jollys" from rape and 'Sado' sites, the mother of the teacher that was the victim bascially campaigned at the government to change the laws which they did recently.

ego · 02-13-2008, 01:27 PM

Ah yes, we call this "finger in pain, cut the hand".....

I guess if he had his ideas from the news they'd had ban newspapers...

02-13-2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ego

Ah yes, we call this "finger in pain, cut the hand".....

I guess if he had his ideas from the news they'd had ban newspapers...

HMMMMM LOL!

I say blame TV, its always the TV's fault

ego · 02-13-2008, 01:35 PM

Newspapers are better than TV......i mean what can one roll in one tv?

Ragman · 02-13-2008, 02:00 PM

I think this is really sad, Lumping those who have a fantasy in with those who commit acts of atrocity. Kinda like saying since an author writes murder mysteries they are going to go out and kill people.

I feel for yall in the UK, and I hope it doesn't strech to the rest of the world...

touriquet2001 · 02-13-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clan_hunter

Unfortuntely its not the ISP's that are pushing for the change, its the government that have been pressured by the music industry and the government is going to clamp down on this fairly soon by forcing the ISP's too and to be fair the ISP's are supporting it, all our phone lines are owned via British Telecom, even if you internet or phone is provided by another company it will be BT that cuts you off.

Ego - Yes rape porn and other extreme violent porn is illegal to have on your computer in the UK, the law recently came in last year, there has yet to be a case go to court as yet so its un-proven ground at the moment.

This came about then a teacher was raped, tortured and murdered in the UK and the silly fucker that did it admitted he go his "ideas/jollys" from rape and 'Sado' sites, the mother of the teacher that was the victim bascially campaigned at the government to change the laws which they did recently.

better hope no one is killed with a steak knife

dinker99 · 10-11-2008, 08:10 AM

P2P traffic is easily detected by the ISP, HTTP is difficult to monitor.

02-12-2008, 05:47 PM	#1
clan_hunter Guest Posts: n/a	Illegal downloaders could face ban - UK http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200802...t-fa6b408.html LONDON (Reuters) - Britain could follow France in cutting Internet access to users who repeatedly download music or films illegally. The government had given the music and film industries a year to come to a voluntary agreement with Internet Service Providers over how to tackle illegal file sharing, but that timeframe expired at the end of 2007. With no sign of an agreement in place, it is due to publish its options in a strategy document in the coming weeks and a separate consultation later in the year to examine how it can cut down on piracy. One suggestion put forward by the music industry is to adopt the French model, where warning messages are sent to those who frequently download music or films illegally. If the messages are ignored, users can have their accounts suspended or closed altogether. The body representing Internet Service Providers (ISPs) says they would prefer a voluntary agreement but the music industry argues it has been forced to demand legal action after rampant Internet piracy rocked its traditional revenue model. A report in the Times on Tuesday suggested ISPs could be legally required to take action against users who accessed pirated material. An alternative system would be based on filtering, which could block illegal files from being downloaded. Global music sales were down around 10 percent in 2007 and the international music trade body, the IFPI group, estimates that tens of billions of illegal tracks were swapped in the year. But John Kennedy, the head of the IFPI, said the mood was turning towards ISPs having to take more responsibility for cracking down on illegal activity. "It is simply not acceptable for ISPs to turn a blind eye to the piracy on their networks which is at such a rate that there are 20 illegal music downloads for every legal track sold," he said in a statement. "Record companies have licensed more than six million tracks to over 500 legal services and consumers can now legitimately get access to music online in a wide variety of ways. "If the French and British governments take action and others follow, there will be more room for the legal market to something for nothing' deal available on the illegal networks that do not invest a penny in generating new music." A spokeswoman for the Department of Culture, Media and Sport declined to comment on what options would feature in the strategy report.

02-12-2008, 09:20 PM	#5
Sanitarium Movie Mobster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,127 Reputation: 59324	I guess that means .... Download while you can! __________________ Download CryptLoad How to use CryptLoad for downloading How to use CryptLoad for uploading Please DO NOT repost my links.

02-13-2008, 06:08 AM	#6
ego the obscure Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,457 Reputation: 14892	Excuse me? They have the right to check what you download? And rape fantasy movies are illegal in UK? __________________ ..lure them all into the abyss!

02-13-2008, 06:47 AM	#7
MADDOGMCMANAMAN PUSSYCRUSHER Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: YOUR MOMMAS HOUSE Posts: 2,161 Reputation: 9875	thats such a fucking load of bullshit - mutherfuckers btw - just wondering how do they know what is porn or not ?? eg. if i dl a winrar file labelled just "r" or "b" but it contained porn - how would they know ? __________________ The Original PUSSYCRUSHER !!

02-13-2008, 01:27 PM	#10
ego the obscure Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,457 Reputation: 14892	Ah yes, we call this "finger in pain, cut the hand"..... I guess if he had his ideas from the news they'd had ban newspapers... __________________ ..lure them all into the abyss!

02-12-2008, 05:50 PM	#2
clan_hunter Guest Posts: n/a	Also this was on the BBC news as well and they stated the way they would check is to at random view both music and movie files you download using there ISP servers. LOL, they are in for a bit of a shock, however this does have implications for UK members, if they do view that you are downloading rape fantasy porn it is now illegal under the obscene publications act to have it with a three year jail term so they may pass that info onto the police that you have downloaded some.

02-12-2008, 08:46 PM	#3
FinalKey Key Master Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 677 Reputation: 4792	Damn, glad I'm not living in the UK...but I know the US will follow along shortly.

02-12-2008, 09:14 PM	#4
touriquet2001 please delete Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,805 Reputation: 35886	i have a friend that lives in Tennessee .where they live at the isp checks for porn sites and blocks you from browsing them . if they deem they are not in the community guidelines .

02-13-2008, 06:48 AM	#8
Sephy Guest Posts: n/a	ISPs must know better than the rest of us that if they actually close accounts or turn in customers who use the internet for such things, they'd quickly run themselves out of business. Isn't it something like 80 percent of internet users actually use the service for porn on a regular basis? (Heh.. they'd have to build lots more whorehouses!) Granted, the movie and music industries have an awful lot of power. But if my ISP started to restrict my usage to that point, I'd soon have little use for this myself. We'd all probably lose interest in browsing if everything was monitored that strictly.

02-13-2008, 01:35 PM	#12
ego the obscure Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,457 Reputation: 14892	Newspapers are better than TV......i mean what can one roll in one tv? __________________ ..lure them all into the abyss!

02-13-2008, 02:00 PM	#13
Ragman Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: an alley near you Posts: 2,226 Reputation: 5535	I think this is really sad, Lumping those who have a fantasy in with those who commit acts of atrocity. Kinda like saying since an author writes murder mysteries they are going to go out and kill people. I feel for yall in the UK, and I hope it doesn't strech to the rest of the world... __________________ "Aww He's just a silly, dirty little man. What's to be afraid of ?" 2

10-11-2008, 08:10 AM	#15
dinker99 Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 747 Reputation: 15781	P2P traffic is easily detected by the ISP, HTTP is difficult to monitor.