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Fibonacci · 06-18-2008, 09:44 AM

The Turkish goalkeeper can play only in finals. He got banned for two matches for atacking Koller at the end of match with Czechs! UEFA took this as assault.

Well, I don't think it was so bad - I've heard he is a little labile, but standard one match after a red card would be enough by my opinion. Nobody got hurt and he even gave us a chance to draw the match

ezzdx · 06-18-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

For me, point 10) is enough. I love football

Also it's enough for me and for any one who love football around the world.

ezzdx · 06-18-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

The Turkish goalkeeper can play only in finals. He got banned for two matches for atacking Koller at the end of match with Czechs! UEFA took this as assault.

Well, I don't think it was so bad - I've heard he is a little labile, but standard one match after a red card would be enough by my opinion. Nobody got hurt and he even gave us a chance to draw the match

I see the decision of giving the red card to Volkan and Schweinsteiger was unjust,and giving it to Abidal wasn't necessary and hasn't any mercy,I see the yellow card were enough for all those cases.

godofthunder · 06-18-2008, 03:45 PM

Dont agree... Kicking the player have to be red card. It is one of the most important rule of UEFA for this championship. So card are deserved.
I think there should be more red cards, I want to see football not ultimate fight.

MeltyMan · 06-18-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ezzdx

I see the decision of giving the red card to Volkan and Schweinsteiger was unjust,and giving it to Abidal wasn't necessary and hasn't any mercy,I see the yellow card were enough for all those cases.

Abidal was the last man and had to b sent off, the ref would have got in2 trouble if he had not given him the red

ezzdx · 06-18-2008, 05:27 PM

Spain 2 - 1 Greece
Sweden 0 - 2 Russia

Russia succeeded to cross the group stage and to be in the quarter-final against Holland after winning by two goals,Archavin was the man of the match and this guy gave Russia another face,I think if he were in the previous matches the results of that matches would be another thing,Russia played a good match and I think if they could have another stricker than
Pavluchenko they would be better.

I think the injury of Ibrahimovic prevented him to be in his form and for that Sweden wasn't in her form,Sweden is very good in the group stage and they often cross the it but in this time they couldn't.

In the other match Greece couldn't even get a draw with the substitutes of Spain and they leaved this Euro without any point,and by this we can consider Greece the worst team in this Euro as they are the only team who didn't get any point.

ezzdx · 06-18-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by godofthunder

Dont agree... Kicking the player have to be red card. It is one of the most important rule of UEFA for this championship. So card are deserved.
I think there should be more red cards, I want to see football not ultimate fight.

I see the both of Volkan and Schweinsteiger didn't kick but push,and I think this the yellow card is enough for this also we didn't see any blood or injury in the two players they push.
and I'm not with using the red card in this cases specialy when the player banned for more than one match case of this red card,and there aren't problems with seeing some fights during the match.

ezzdx · 06-18-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MeltyMan

Abidal was the last man and had to b sent off, the ref would have got in2 trouble if he had not given him the red

I don't say the refree was wrong in giving Abidal the red card but I think if he gave him the yellow card with the penalty he wouldn't be wrong also.

Sternenlied · 06-19-2008, 04:41 AM

Well, although I definitely root for Germany I am positive Schweinsteiger completely deserved his red card. Of course eventually a yellow card might have sufficed but I think football players stepping up for their countries in the national teams have to act like professionals and can't just resolve to violence (even if there was no "blood injury" it's still an attack on another player).
If they can't control themselves they should definitely be banished from the game and given a penalty. Especially in a championship contest this kind of behaviour falls back on the entire country the player in question plays for so he should be mindful of his responsibilities towards his country and football fans all over the world.
Aside from that I simply do not condone violence of any kind if not self-defense. So these kinds of fouls must be severly punished!
Keep sports peaceful!

ezzdx · 06-19-2008, 07:06 AM

Some players try to provoke the other players buy various ways like insulting or making intended dangerous actions against them,the referee doesn't see this things but he usually see the reaction of the player who face this things,and this was clear in the case of Zidane-Materazzi for example.

but surely what happened from Schweinsteiger and Volkan weren't right as their teams loss them in that matches and in another one or two matches,but Schweinsteiger will play today against Portugal.

Sternenlied · 06-19-2008, 08:50 AM

Yes, and Zizou deserved his red card for that as well.
He was (is) a football legend and he distroyed a whole lot of his great legacy by losing his grip on himself when he saw red before he saw red (

) and slammed his head into his opponent's chest.
Professionals who can't control themselves and stand above possible insults by other players don't belong on a playing field, of whatever sport!
If they don't want their own team to lose the abilities they can offer they simply mustn't attack other players. It doesn't matter what those did or said before.

godofthunder · 06-19-2008, 11:04 AM

Zidane deserved that red card. There is no doubt. About Volkan and Schweinsteiger, I think the mistake is that Schweinsteiger shoudnt get one game punishment, and Volkan two. They should be punished on the same way.
About provoking... Jerko Leko also got yellow card for that. Players should be punished for provoking, but one can provoke until he is blue if other one is professional enough and don't fell on that.

Beardy · 06-19-2008, 01:23 PM

Now Sweden is out of the Euro, so his captain, Freddie Ljunberg, has more spare time to rape girls. I wish I was the one...

ezzdx · 06-19-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternenlied

Professionals who can't control themselves and stand above possible insults by other players don't belong on a playing field, of whatever sport!

Honestly I couldn't understand what you mean by this.

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Originally Posted by Sternenlied

If they don't want their own team to lose the abilities they can offer they simply mustn't attack other players. It doesn't matter what those did or said before .

This is the problem of the red card,the team loss the player in that match and maybe in another matches,but I think the player shouldn't be banned for more than one match as he didn't make any dangerous action.

ezzdx · 06-19-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by godofthunder

Zidane deserved that red card. There is no doubt.

Yes he deserved the red card but Materazzi was deserve a big punishment after he confess about what he said to Zidane during the match,I see he should banning for about six months.

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Originally Posted by godofthunder

About Volkan and Schweinsteiger, I think the mistake is that Schweinsteiger shoudnt get one game punishment, and Volkan two. They should be punished on the same way.

I'm really wonder why they didn't give them the same punishment as they did the same mistake!

ezzdx · 06-19-2008, 06:05 PM

Germany 3 - 2 Portugal

Germany sent Portugal off in a wonderful match,and and German machines deserved this win and they were better in the most times of the match,the German coach Joachim LÃ¶w was smart in his plan,he succeeded to close Ronaldo and also by putting Bastian Schweinsteiger in the right to help Friedrich and prevent any help from Ferreira to Ronaldo,but Ferreira was who need the help for stopping Schweinsteiger,also we shouldn't forget that Frings didn't play in this match but we didn't see many difference in the strength of Germany.

I think Schweinsteiger won't be again in with substitutes,he deserve to be in the 11 from beginning.
Good luck for Germany in the road of the cup,there is another match with Croatia or Turkey then the final,hope it won't be with the lucky team Italy.
Congerats to Sterne and all German members and fans "leaderd by me".

Fibonacci · 06-20-2008, 02:52 AM

I really don't like the German style of football. Sometimes it was nice, fast, and the first goal was outstanding. But normally it is based on physicaly strong players and destructive football

This is then hard for technical teams to play against (I count our team to rather technical, we always have problems with germany too), especially when they are loosing.

Honestly, yesterday the Germany was probably better and were better prepared strategicaly. The Portugal shooting from distance was absolutely useless, but in the second half they had great presure and I was waiting, when they can score to draw.

And then the Ballack's goal came after exactely the same situation as in the first half. I was sick but when I saw it repeated

Fuck off

4th place is enough. I don't want Germany to win this championship!

godofthunder · 06-20-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ezzdx

I'm really wonder why they didn't give them the same punishment as they did the same mistake!

I found out why: He sat on the bench after was sent off, but he had to go out of the team area, so the second game was because of that.

ezzdx · 06-20-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

I really don't like the German style of football. Sometimes it was nice, fast, and the first goal was outstanding. But normally it is based on physicaly strong players and destructive football

This is then hard for technical teams to play against (I count our team to rather technical, we always have problems with germany too), especially when they are loosing.

You are free to choose the style of football you like,the German football in interesting for me,maybe you will wonder for this and many people wonder for this also,the most Egyptian are like the Brazilian style of football but I like the German,but if you would talk about who destructive football there are many big teams who do this more than Germany like England and Italy.

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

Honestly, yesterday the Germany was probably better and were better prepared strategicaly. The Portugal shooting from distance was absolutely useless, but in the second half they had great presure and I was waiting, when they can score to draw.

Why? The Portugal isn't Turkey and Germany isn't The Czech.

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

4th place is enough. I don't want Germany to win this championship!

ezzdx · 06-20-2008, 02:14 PM

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Germany will be no 2, after Russia, which will be Champion

After watching the match of Russia with Sweden I can't say it's impossible,but also it's very difficult.

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Germany	3	13.64%
France	4	18.18%
Portugal	1	4.55%
Spain	3	13.64%
Netherlands	2	9.09%
Italy	1	4.55%
Austria	0	0%
Switzerland	0	0%
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06-18-2008, 03:45 PM	#144
godofthunder Privileged Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 448 Reputation: 24112	Dont agree... Kicking the player have to be red card. It is one of the most important rule of UEFA for this championship. So card are deserved. I think there should be more red cards, I want to see football not ultimate fight. __________________ Best various teen rape collection http://rapeboard.com/showthread.php?t=21740

06-19-2008, 04:41 AM	#149
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	Well, although I definitely root for Germany I am positive Schweinsteiger completely deserved his red card. Of course eventually a yellow card might have sufficed but I think football players stepping up for their countries in the national teams have to act like professionals and can't just resolve to violence (even if there was no "blood injury" it's still an attack on another player). If they can't control themselves they should definitely be banished from the game and given a penalty. Especially in a championship contest this kind of behaviour falls back on the entire country the player in question plays for so he should be mindful of his responsibilities towards his country and football fans all over the world. Aside from that I simply do not condone violence of any kind if not self-defense. So these kinds of fouls must be severly punished! Keep sports peaceful! __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way

06-19-2008, 08:50 AM	#151
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	Yes, and Zizou deserved his red card for that as well. He was (is) a football legend and he distroyed a whole lot of his great legacy by losing his grip on himself when he saw red before he saw red ( ) and slammed his head into his opponent's chest. Professionals who can't control themselves and stand above possible insults by other players don't belong on a playing field, of whatever sport! If they don't want their own team to lose the abilities they can offer they simply mustn't attack other players. It doesn't matter what those did or said before. __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way

06-19-2008, 11:04 AM	#152
godofthunder Privileged Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 448 Reputation: 24112	Zidane deserved that red card. There is no doubt. About Volkan and Schweinsteiger, I think the mistake is that Schweinsteiger shoudnt get one game punishment, and Volkan two. They should be punished on the same way. About provoking... Jerko Leko also got yellow card for that. Players should be punished for provoking, but one can provoke until he is blue if other one is professional enough and don't fell on that. __________________ Best various teen rape collection http://rapeboard.com/showthread.php?t=21740

06-19-2008, 07:06 AM	#150
ezzdx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Egypt Posts: 1,197 Reputation: 759	Some players try to provoke the other players buy various ways like insulting or making intended dangerous actions against them,the referee doesn't see this things but he usually see the reaction of the player who face this things,and this was clear in the case of Zidane-Materazzi for example. but surely what happened from Schweinsteiger and Volkan weren't right as their teams loss them in that matches and in another one or two matches,but Schweinsteiger will play today against Portugal.

06-20-2008, 02:52 AM	#157
Fibonacci Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 773 Reputation: 36912	I really don't like the German style of football. Sometimes it was nice, fast, and the first goal was outstanding. But normally it is based on physicaly strong players and destructive football This is then hard for technical teams to play against (I count our team to rather technical, we always have problems with germany too), especially when they are loosing. Honestly, yesterday the Germany was probably better and were better prepared strategicaly. The Portugal shooting from distance was absolutely useless, but in the second half they had great presure and I was waiting, when they can score to draw. And then the Ballack's goal came after exactely the same situation as in the first half. I was sick but when I saw it repeated Fuck off 4th place is enough. I don't want Germany to win this championship!