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08-21-2013, 07:02 PM | #1 |
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Is Sadomasocism the new LGBT?
I have a theory that Sadism/Dominance and Masocism/Submission is a type of sexual orientation.
Does anyone else agree? Is it possible that some people are born Sadists and Some people are born submissive and some people are born swith and some born with no interest in this at all? How much does earily childhood effect rape fantasies? |
08-26-2013, 04:18 AM | #2 |
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I guess it's true some people are born with gifts and natural tendencies but is it gonna be all about sex I don't know....depends what you call submissive...some people would just remain idle in conflicts, making look like they surrender but still go their own ways.....
I'm not a psychologist but I would agree childhood is a very influential period of life but when you become a teenager you gotta learn how to deal with conflicts and how to defend yourself anyway...I guess what I'm trying to say is just life can push you go against your nature sometimes ... But still I think it's a very interesting point of view you have....I think it would be just great to find out you're right and see Dom/Submission tendencies been more tolerated......and see a new tolerance for differencies arise....and see a lot of new fashion and creative looking people in the streets.. Gay marriage just got accepted here in France.....but I have the feeling I never heard that much anti gay hate slogans since that law passed... I remember an anti gay guy saying on tv : "Ho you want to allow mariage for gay couples ? What's next step ? Mariage for zoophilous couples ? Gay community finally got what they want with the argument of inheritance rights. I wonder what Dom/Sub couple could say to get married .... |
02-23-2014, 09:26 PM | #3 |
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We had the same reaction in Canada, you would have thought the instutution of marriage was being removed. But guess what, people saw it wasn't the end of the world, its didn't effect the vast majority of people, and hetrosexual marriage wasn't effected by it all. All the fear mongering was bullshit.
And now most Canadians support gay marriage, its become normal, and even those who don't like it know its not going anywhere and have largely given up the fight to change the law. I think the Canadian comfort with Gay marriage is actually spreading to the US thanks to proximity with US states adopting gay marriage and more Americans the ever comfortable with it. Hopefully our day will come too, when femanists don't assume a male dominate is the great male satan, or women hating or whatever, and where a woman can be sexual submissive without feeling like she's letting women down, and still be powerful and strong in other facates of her life (not that submissives are strong and powerful in there sex lives, its just a soft kind of power as opposed to hard ( and more illusionary) power of a dominate). |
02-23-2014, 09:31 PM | #4 | |
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02-23-2014, 10:38 PM | #5 |
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Is that some sort of sandwich?
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Fist is a four letter word. So is fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, fist fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, and, well you get the fist-fucking picture.... THE WESTCOUNTRY SHALL RISE AGAIN! Yay! It's pink! Don't think.... FEEL! We're Englishmen, and we came here, to rape your women and drink your beer. I went back in time and voted for Hitler. Pouring oil on troubled waters since 2008. Then lighting a fucking match.
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02-23-2014, 11:51 PM | #6 |
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Hi I like it
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02-25-2014, 08:03 AM | #7 |
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Er, no. LGBT is an identity; SM is a fetish. The former is a thing you are, the latter a thing you do. Very different.
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02-25-2014, 02:18 PM | #8 |
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I don't know... I myself have done very little actual real-life S&M play, but I know I've been this way since I was very young. Even as far back as the age of five I was drawn to any sort of imagery, stories etc. that involved people getting locked in cages or caught in nets or tied up, long before I had any understanding of sex, or how such fantasies could take shape in the real world.
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02-26-2014, 01:21 AM | #9 | |
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02-25-2014, 02:30 PM | #10 |
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I don't know I just like to have my cock bitten
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02-27-2014, 10:38 AM | #11 |
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SM is a fetish, not a sexual orientation.
If you feel sexual atraction to oposite sex, you are straight, it doesn't matter if you enjoy pain or not. |
02-27-2014, 11:45 AM | #12 |
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If you can't experience sexual arousal without a particular fetish involved, does that then become an orientation? If not, why not?
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Fist is a four letter word. So is fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, fist fist, fist, fist, fist, fist, and, well you get the fist-fucking picture.... THE WESTCOUNTRY SHALL RISE AGAIN! Yay! It's pink! Don't think.... FEEL! We're Englishmen, and we came here, to rape your women and drink your beer. I went back in time and voted for Hitler. Pouring oil on troubled waters since 2008. Then lighting a fucking match.
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02-27-2014, 06:13 PM | #13 | |
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Over the course of my life I have spent (or perhaps wasted) a lot of years trying to work out why I am "this way." One of my earliest memories related to this is of my parents innocently taking us kids to see Chitty Chiitty Bang Bang at the movie theatre when I was five. Just a few years ago I rented the DVD and saw the movie again for the second time, and was overwhelmed by how much of it came back to me. Now... The only way for anyone to understand this is to watch CCBB themselves, which I can't really recommend doing, because for an adult person the film as a whole is almost unwatchably tedious; but if you can put yourself into the relatively blank-slate mindset of a five-year-old, it is, in parts, just about the kinkiest goddamn thing you've ever seen. We have:
EDITED here to make it clearer that my inclination does not involve children in any way. I was five at the time, and my imagination then was all innocent pre-sexual cartoonish adventures and rescues and such. The participants in my fantasies grew along with me, and dark sexual contexts gradually formed around it all later.
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02-27-2014, 10:21 PM | #14 | |
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People of any orientation can share a particular kink or fetish. However, people who share a kink or fetish might not share the same orientation. They're totally separate characteristics.
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03-01-2014, 10:55 PM | #15 |
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That's right, and in fact it's damned disrespectful to lgtq youth who have suffered abuse, beatings persecution or even abandonment and attempted murder because of who they're attracted to. The simple fact is, admit you like being spanked and you'll get laughed at, but in some parts of the country a man who admits he loves other men can be straight-up killed and the law will turn a blind eye to it.
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