Murder / In-shadow Videos

[woody2]

Anyone else find these videos disturbing? It's not even about sex, or rape, most of the time it's just murder. I'm not judging, I'm just curious as to why these videos are appealing. They seem to be very popular lately.

[ChiTownHoney]

I dont understand your question. Murder videos, you mean, mainstream videos where a murder takes place?

In that case, Yes please.

Especially if the guy doing the killing is sexy.

[touriquet2001]

Originally Posted by ChiTownHoney

I dont understand your question. Murder videos, you mean, mainstream videos where a murder takes place?

In that case, Yes please.

I love it. Especially if the guy doing the killing is sexy.

he means the ones in the movie section . search for "inshadow" if you want to see what he's talking about .

doesn't really do anything for me one way or the other . i guess more or less indifferent to them . give me "kidnapklub" vids over them any day .

[woody2]

Not really main-stream movies, I'm talking about the murder fetish videos. The guy basically walks in the room, strangles or stabs a woman and then the camera zooms in on the "dead" woman's face; end scene.

Originally Posted by LOVELYS

Preview:
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Screenshot:


Download:

http://rapidshare.com/files/140052689/thieves.rar
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http://mediafire.com/?2n2wymwnm6v
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The way they zoom in to show her lifeless expression for like 30 seconds is disturbing IMO. Reminds of a show I was watching on a serial murderer who killed people and got off on watching them die.

Interesting to say the least. Once again, I'm not here to judge, just curious as to what others think about these types of videos. It's not a public poll or anything.

[ChiTownHoney]

bah, its ok. I dont do the movies section. What happens in it?

[touriquet2001]

mostly the female gets killed ... sometimes they have sex first , sometimes after ...

[Ragman]

I voted no. Death really isn't my thing. I actually find it a little creepy, and when enjoying a movie.. a dead girl at the end can completley ruin the entire experiance for me.

Which is unfortunate because my favorite clip "forced entry" involves this fetish.. I always stop the movie before that part.

as a side note, i thought there was a motion a few weeks back to ban snuff like films... Did that ever go through?

[woody2]

Originally Posted by Ragman

I voted no. Death really isn't my thing. I actually find it a little creepy, and when enjoying a movie.. a dead girl at the end can completley ruin the entire experiance for me.

Which is unfortunate because my favorite clip "forced entry" involves this fetish.. I always stop the movie before that part.

as a side note, i thought there was a motion a few weeks back to ban snuff like films... Did that ever go through?

I agree, and that's an interesting point about the motion to ban these types of videos. Where did you hear that? Some of them are pretty realistic and graphic, I could see them being banned in certain countries.

[touriquet2001]

i thought the inshadow ones had quite a bit of bondage in them and maybe some sex either before or after she was killed ?

mainly strangling i think chi , haven't seen many of them . not really my thing

[woody2]

Originally Posted by touriquet2001

i thought the inshadow ones had quite a bit of bondage in them and maybe some sex either before or after she was killed ?

Yes some of them do. I should have been more clear, I'm actually more referring to the ones that involve just murder.

[touriquet2001]

Originally Posted by woody2

Yes some of them do. I should have been more clear, I'm actually more referring to the ones that involve just murder.

in that case it's a total turn off .

[ChiTownHoney]

Thanks for that, however, it would be alot better if the murderer showed his face. Its such a turn on to see the menacing face of the person doing it.

[woody2]

Originally Posted by ChiTownHoney

Its such a turn on to see the menacing face of the person doing it.

I guess it's the power, control and dominance factor that turns you on, (maybe the same case for others too). Although, the last thing I expected was a woman to find these videos appealing. I guess it's hard to imagine fantasizing about murdering someone in my case, let alone fantasizing about being the victim.

[theDarkOne]

Originally Posted by woody2

I guess it's the power, control and dominance factor that turns you on

Isn't that basically rape fantasy.The reason we are all here.Im not down with the blood but i do like the asphyxia.I like the fact that there are all kinds of movies to suit everyones taste.Banning fake snuff would make us hypocrites.
Just my opinion.Hope i did not come off like an @$$hole.

[woody2]

Originally Posted by Ragman

you can check it out here..

http://www.rapeboard.com/showthread....ight=Snuff+ban


though.. it probably shouldn't be bumped...

it looks like GRM did a poll to see what people thought and "no snuff" Won the poll..even if only by a little bit... and only because the yes vote was split in two different options...

but since there hasn't been any action taken against the in the shadows movies.. I guess it was more unofficial

Ahh I gotcha, I actually thought you meant a country-wide ban. Kind of like the MFX 2 girls and one cup videos, (the creator of those videos was actually sent to jail!).

Originally Posted by Noir

I don't really see the big difference between fantasizing about rape or asphyxia for example.

Hmm, I see a big difference. These are videos that sometimes only portray murder and the victim's lifless expression after they're murdered. It's just way too twisted for me.

[woody2]

Originally Posted by Noir

Haven't heard about that incident but what country are you referring to since jail for something like that sounds odd? By the way does anyone know how the max hardcore case ended because it comes close to this kind of obscenities?

It was in the U.S.

Looks like I was wrong, he made a plea bargain and got 3 years supervision. I heard somewhere else he was sent to prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Girls_1_Cup

The video originated from a Brazilian, Marco Fiorito, who describes himself as a "compulsive fetishist".[6] Fiorito originally produced foot fetish videos but soon moved on to coprophagia. The film was produced by MFX-Video, one of several companies owned by Fiorito.[6] Fiorito contends his films are legal in Brazil, but authorities in the United States have branded some of his films as obscene and filed charges against Danilo Croce, a Brazilian lawyer living in Florida, listed as an officer of a company distributing Fiorito's films in the United States.[6] Croce accepted a plea bargain and was sentenced to 3 years of unsupervised probation and forfeiture of $98,000.[6] Fiorito claimed he did not know his films were illegal in the United States and that his films often contained chocolate instead of feces to appease some of his actors who were willing to appear in scat films but not actually eat fecal matter.[6]

Originally Posted by Noir

Guess it depends partially on how you look at it. As long as you can understand the difference between fantasy and reality it doesn't matter that much if you are looking at fantasy material with rape, deaths or something mixing those two. On the other hand I do share partion of your view on this subject so it isn't that easy to give a clear answer on this kind of a subject.

That is true, the difference between fantasy and reality is important. I just feel that fantasizing about violent murder is a little different. HOWEVER, once again, I'm not here to judge. Everyone has their own tastes/fetishes.

[ChiTownHoney]

Originally Posted by woody2

It was in the U.S.

Looks like I was wrong, he made a plea bargain and got 3 years supervision. I heard somewhere else he was sent to prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Girls_1_Cup

I must say...its is so incredibly awesome to be a part of something that is so grotesque, yet still legal, and have people talking about your movie and how much of a taboo who it. I would love to be a part of something like that. Especially from my eyes...I have yet to see "2 girls/1 cup" but I have heard all I need to know to stay away from it. It's like the Holy Grail. You will never see it, but you will hear about it. How cool.

[Ragman]

to each their own I guess< still does nothing for me, i like the emotion of a victim after the fact.. and of course.. there is no emotion from a dead girl.. i am searching the old posts to see if i can find the information on the snuff ban

[Ragman]

I found the debate about snuff material.. but its a REALLY old thread.. i must have just seen it because someone bumped a really old thread.. My mistake...

[ChiTownHoney]

So what were the rules, are films that include murder not allowed?