Hussein Execution - Leaked Cellphone Video

[ego]

Originally Posted by blackdog

Well said and I agree with you. Found this post by accident and was going to post basically what you posted. Again well said!!!!

I agree also! The fact you put your goverment next to history's greatest murderers, is enough for me!
Now you know what millions ChiHoney was speaking about.
I never said Sadam (and what he represents) is innocent.But he is not more guilty than America.He used to kill people in the name of god.America kills people in the name of oil.
You really believe these 5.000 americans died there because they were trying to set the Iraqish people free? Its not because they were sent there to support Amerisa's quest for world domination? Come on, you cant be that naive....

You say Arabs hate Jews and West. Why they never attack France?Germany?Italy?Canada?
Why all targets are Americans, jewish and English? (Spanish once, while spanish forces were in war next to america)

About nukes: Its well known it wasnt necessary.America had already overpowered Japan.It was just a test Dr. Another same...

[Sternenlied]

Well, this is one hard discussion!

I don't think balancing the number of killings against each other makes executions any more righteous ... I just think death penalty is something that doesn't fit any so-called "civilised" culture.
And before anyone states Iraq might not be a civilised culture:
But why do you think the Americans handed Saddam over to their government? Only because they made sure Saddam would be killed. If they would have done it themselves they would just make the Islamists more angry ... so they choose to let another country do the dirty and unpopular work. Especially since the USA aren't too popular around the globe in general these days.
Just concerning the video itself: Neither recording or leaking of it happened by accident. Nothing like this happens by accident anymore nowadays!

[ego]

The righteousness of an execution is another story.
To our conversation, we take it as fact.

[ego]

Originally Posted by MarcEdeSade

In some situations, a brutal dictator is the ONLY thing that will hold a nation cobbled together when it is composed of ethnic groups that hate each other.

The leader of yugoslavia was a brutal dictator. He held together a nation, that for all intents and purposes, was like The black panthers and the KKK, both armed to the teeth and piss drunk in a hot crowded bar with only one toilet.He died. Then the REAL brutality started.

Democracy isn't the solution when 55% would vote to torture and burn to death the other 45%.

Idealism is often the quickest route to atrocity.

Mark you are wright.Especially the last sentence.Idealism killed more people than cancer the last century.

I have one only objection.Its about yugoslavia and their brutal dictator.
Yugoslavia never was a nation.It was a country,yes, but never a nation.
A nation has at least three of these things in common:
Relegion,language,culture,nativity,habitude,histor y.
Yugoslavia had none of them.
Generally, there are only three nations on the balkan area:Greeks,Slavs and Ottomans(Turkish if u prefer).

[ChiTownHoney]

Originally Posted by drmephisto

American who died to free Japan and Germany from the grip of tyranny, some 400,000.

If we didn't use those NUKES in Japan, those American casualites would have been increased by over another million.

Japan attacked a naval base, America nuked civilians.

Originally Posted by drmephisto

As for the families whose loved ones have died in Iraq, don't believe that they are all like Cindy Sheehan. Most of them support what their loved ones are doing. And those soldiers believe it themselves since many go back even after being wounded.

How can they support what their loved ones are doing when they have no idea exactly WHAT they are doing and the soldiers dont have any idea what they are doing either!! Stupid people. To die in Iraq for NOTHING! How can someone leave their family to go fight in a STUPID war that they know nothing ABOUT!! They can stay there for all I care, dont come back cause you left your family which is more important than COUNTRY. Family wont send you to die when you're country WILL send you to die and they give a shit about you! I have seen too many young men go to Iraq to be used as a human shield. Whats funny is that they do it cause their BORED! I dont respect them when they come back. Wear your damn uniform and try to get laid saying some shit like you just got back from Iraq. I dont give a f- as*hole! Soldiers mean nothing to me unless they are fighting for a real cause. These Americans dont know WHAT they are fighting for but they go to fight anyways just because.

Originally Posted by drmephisto

The only difference is that those Japanese pilots were defending their country, while these bastards are killing in the name of GOD. That is to be feared, not the US.

It is better to kill for GOD than to kill for COUNTRY.

[mikki]

...all That said, they've gone and executed a man for killing...what was it?146 people because men in That particular city attempted to assassinate him? what, that and an additional 20,000 others for whatever reason?

so He was executed for doing Exactly the Same Thing We are doing (according to you): Protecting his interests.

that means we would have to hang W 32 times- and even That would be a bit on the conservative side.

but in all fairness, i don't Really believe W is responsible, or should be Held responsible, for it All. We, as Americans, have Got to start practicing what we preach (or at least live up to our own propaganda).

btw: Saddam had Nothing to do with the towers, as much as the propaganda machines have tried to brainwash us into Believing. That Monster is still Out There.

and the war in iraq has Nothing to do with all That. i Remember talk of war before the towers. it seemed to be W's agenda as Soon as he took office.

justify it any way that will allow you to sleep at night... just Don't lie to yourself in the morning.


mikki

[Sodoman]

Mikki, the war in Iraq started during G.W. Sr. term but it did not get finished, so G.W. Jr. decided to finish it and take heat off of Osama Bin Laden; because the Bush family and I'm sure many other politicians, are friends with the Bin Ladens. Bin Laden may appear to be an outcast within his family but I'm not convinced that's how the story goes. Plus Bush, Cheney, and their greedy, corrupt oil companies they have ties with, want the oil in Iraq and probably all of the middle east.

[Sodoman]

btw, Mikki, you might want to clear some of your messages from your inbox and sent box. You can't currently recieve any messages.

[Rogue]

Originally Posted by ChiTownHoney

How can they support what their loved ones are doing when they have no idea exactly WHAT they are doing and the soldiers dont have any idea what they are doing either!! Stupid people. To die in Iraq for NOTHING! How can someone leave their family to go fight in a STUPID war that they know nothing ABOUT!! They can stay there for all I care, dont come back cause you left your family which is more important than COUNTRY. Family wont send you to die when you're country WILL send you to die and they give a shit about you! I have seen too many young men go to Iraq to be used as a human shield. Whats funny is that they do it cause their BORED! I dont respect them when they come back. Wear your damn uniform and try to get laid saying some shit like you just got back from Iraq. I dont give a f- as*hole! Soldiers mean nothing to me unless they are fighting for a real cause. These Americans dont know WHAT they are fighting for but they go to fight anyways just because.

Now THAT was well said. America has a "attack is the best form of defence" mentality, and many of these young men enjoy it. They are not even attacking what attacked them in 2001, so I don't see any reason to respect them. I'm more impressed with the ones that stay with their families than those who boast about how long they've coped without them.