Maradona or PelÃ©? Who was the greatest? - Rape Board

rasputin · 07-10-2008, 06:16 PM

Who, in your opinion, was the greatest soccer ( football ) player of the two?

MARADONA · 07-10-2008, 06:19 PM

should i response?

rasputin · 07-10-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MARADONA

should i response?

I knew you were a PelÃ© fan the moment I saw your avatar!

leopolis · 07-10-2008, 07:19 PM

Different time, different football. I guess it is hard to tell. According to a FIFA's survey, Maradona is the greatest. Nevertheless, Pele won more titles and scored more than a 1000 goals. In my humble opinion, I would say that both are the greatest. I had the unforgettable experience to see Maradona live in both Olympic Stadium and Azteca Stadium in 1986 World Cup (Argentina vs Korea and Argentina vs England) -I was living in Mexico in those times- and he is out of this world really. Unfortunately, I never saw Pele (I'm not that old). So, when talking about those two, I'd rather say that the first step in the podium must be shared.

Cheers,

rasputin · 07-10-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by leopolis

Different time, different football. I guess it is hard to tell. According to a FIFA's survey, Maradona is the greatest. Nevertheless, Pele won more titles and scored more than a 1000 goals. In my humble opinion, I would say that both are the greatest. I had the unforgettable experience to see Maradona live in both Olympic Stadium and Azteca Stadium in 1986 World Cup (Argentina vs Korea and Argentina vs England) -I was living in Mexico in those times- and he is out of this world really. Unfortunately, I never saw Pele (I'm not that old). So, when talking about those two, I'd rather say that the first step in the podium must be shared.

Cheers,

Excellent answer. And yes, PelÃ© has more goals than Maradona, but he also spent most of his career in Brazil. Perhaps if Maradona had spent most of his career in Argentina ( as opposed to Europe, where the real competition was... ) he would have scored more, too? Hard to tell, of course.

But PelÃ© was a master, no doubt about it. There are a lot of clips of him in Youtube if you are interested in seeing his art.

MADDOGMCMANAMAN · 07-11-2008, 02:28 PM

Wow this is one of THOSE questions !!! just too hard to answer

Both men are legends in their own right

rasputin · 07-11-2008, 05:56 PM

Yes. But so far Maradona is leading...

dashrendar44 · 07-11-2008, 06:36 PM

its hard to say...sure, maradona was a great player, but i mean come on, hand of god? he even admitted he cheated, so wtf. i understand argentinian pride and the whole falklands thing going on, but seriously. although of course, the great weave goal is a landmark of modern football. but pele has scored the most goals ever, and has never marred his record with things like suspensions, substance abuses and bullshit goals like "hand of god".....

so, even though im part of the Iglesia Maradoniana, i vote for Pele

ezzdx · 07-11-2008, 07:22 PM

Surely it isn't easy to say who is the better of them,I voted for Maradona as I see his skills were more helpful for the team than Pele,I see the things that Pele is better than Maradona are the shots by leg and head and the the inside the penalty area,but Maradona is better in the passing,swerving the ball,dribble,speed,ball control,body balance and acceleration.

Also I think the defences were weaker in the past,I think they were stronger in the 80' and 90' than in the 60' and 70'.

The player who I see doesn't less than Maradona and Pele in many skills is Rummenigge but he was unlucky by his injures,I say this from only his goals I saw,also there are some great players who I see their all playing and I think they also are near from Pele and Maradona like Henry,Zidane,Ronaldo,C.Ronaldo and Kahn.

rasputin · 07-11-2008, 07:31 PM

Another difference between the two is that the Argentinian team, without Maradona, would not have won the world cup while the Brazilians are tired of winning world cups with or without PelÃ©.

I mean, Maradona could carry a team to victory. The team PelÃ© played in had victory written all over them already. Sure he made a difference but the Brazilian team PelÃ© played with probably would have won anyways even if PelÃ© had not been part of them..

When was the last time Argentina was even close to winning the world cup without Maradona?

There you go...

With Maradona gone, the Argentines have a hard time sealing it.

MARADONA · 07-11-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dashrendar44

its hard to say...sure, maradona was a great player, but i mean come on, hand of god? he even admitted he cheated, so wtf. i understand argentinian pride and the whole falklands thing going on, but seriously. although of course, the great weave goal is a landmark of modern football. but pele has scored the most goals ever, and has never marred his record with things like suspensions, substance abuses and bullshit goals like "hand of god".....

so, even though im part of the Iglesia Maradoniana, i vote for Pele

don't make me laugh!

dashrendar44 · 07-11-2008, 07:44 PM

umm...ok?

leopolis · 07-12-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rasputin

Excellent answer. And yes, PelÃ© has more goals than Maradona, but he also spent most of his career in Brazil. Perhaps if Maradona had spent most of his career in Argentina ( as opposed to Europe, where the real competition was... ) he would have scored more, too? Hard to tell, of course.

But PelÃ© was a master, no doubt about it. There are a lot of clips of him in Youtube if you are interested in seeing his art.

Thank you Rasputin. I've seen some of Pele's masterpieces. Anyway, I think nobody is even close to these two, even though Messi is the most outstanding player around. Nevertheless, if talking about great players, I think Colombia has embraced a couple of really different footballers: Valderrama and Higuita. I guess they played in a way nobody else could do.

Cheers,

MARADONA · 07-12-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dashrendar44

umm...ok?

he won that match and the world cup by himself...
making a goal will remain in the football history forever...
are you still confused?

Rogue · 07-12-2008, 02:22 PM

Nobody knows the answer, it is only a matter of opinion but I voted for Maradona. Pele of course was an amazing player but what swayed me is the goal referred to in the post above, where he ran from the half way line, beat several players and scored. That is my favourite thing in football, the ability to beat defenders with ease and skill the way players like George Best did and the Argentinian Messi does today.

Cristiano Ronaldo is often credited with this asset, but he relies on his pace and rarely leaves a wing back dead by skill alone. He does the stepovers and all that nonsense, but only to turn and pass back. Theo Walcott's assist against Liverpool in the Champions League Quarter Final was out of this world and Messi ironically scored a Maradona-esque goal a year or two ago. These kind of goals and players make football the best sport in the world for me.

rasputin · 07-12-2008, 02:54 PM

I'm impressed by some of the answers here. You fuckers know your footie...

MARADONA · 07-12-2008, 04:20 PM

...what about this man???

ezzdx · 07-12-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MARADONA

...what about this man???

This man is Roberto Baggio but when he was young,his skills are very good but sorry to say there is a gap between him and Maradona or Pele,from my mind he is the best in Italian football.
and I hope this photo is better.

MARADONA · 07-12-2008, 09:07 PM

You right ezzdx !
Roby wasn't good as Diego...but one time...during Napoli - Fiorentina..
he made a goal without pass the ball to anyone...in the face of Diego!!!!

Baggio was great...he won a baloon d'or...he was amazing...i love him!

...just as a football player!

ezzdx · 07-13-2008, 08:06 AM

Baggio was very clever and he played mnay good matches with the national team of Italy,I think he was the basic player who moved Italy to the final in 1994 although his penalty kick which gave the cup to Brazil.

But what about this player? although he doesn't have high skills but I see him one of the best attackers in the history of football.

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07-10-2008, 06:16 PM	#1
rasputin Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 378 Reputation: 1534	Maradona or PelÃ©? Who was the greatest? Who, in your opinion, was the greatest soccer ( football ) player of the two?

07-10-2008, 07:19 PM	#4
leopolis Invisible in daylight Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colombia Posts: 423 Reputation: 2187	Different time, different football. I guess it is hard to tell. According to a FIFA's survey, Maradona is the greatest. Nevertheless, Pele won more titles and scored more than a 1000 goals. In my humble opinion, I would say that both are the greatest. I had the unforgettable experience to see Maradona live in both Olympic Stadium and Azteca Stadium in 1986 World Cup (Argentina vs Korea and Argentina vs England) -I was living in Mexico in those times- and he is out of this world really. Unfortunately, I never saw Pele (I'm not that old). So, when talking about those two, I'd rather say that the first step in the podium must be shared. Cheers, __________________ LEO Just another victim of fate

07-11-2008, 02:28 PM	#6
MADDOGMCMANAMAN PUSSYCRUSHER Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: YOUR MOMMAS HOUSE Posts: 2,161 Reputation: 9875	Wow this is one of THOSE questions !!! just too hard to answer Both men are legends in their own right __________________ The Original PUSSYCRUSHER !!

07-11-2008, 06:36 PM	#8
dashrendar44 Kamina Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Deep In The African Jungles Of China Posts: 2,733 Reputation: 12819	its hard to say...sure, maradona was a great player, but i mean come on, hand of god? he even admitted he cheated, so wtf. i understand argentinian pride and the whole falklands thing going on, but seriously. although of course, the great weave goal is a landmark of modern football. but pele has scored the most goals ever, and has never marred his record with things like suspensions, substance abuses and bullshit goals like "hand of god"..... so, even though im part of the Iglesia Maradoniana, i vote for Pele __________________ "Go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb!" ~ Kamina, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann "I've been thinking with my gut since I was 14, and I've come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains." ~ Rob Gordon, High Fidelity "All men are potential rapists. ALL MEN. Even the pope!" ~ Shirley Valentine "When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing." ~ John Rambo, Rambo IV "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway." ~ Syd Barrett, Rolling Stone, December 1971

07-10-2008, 06:19 PM	#2
MARADONA Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of the Lost Posts: 1,838 Reputation: 40272	should i response?

07-11-2008, 05:56 PM	#7
rasputin Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 378 Reputation: 1534	Yes. But so far Maradona is leading...

07-11-2008, 07:22 PM	#9
ezzdx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Egypt Posts: 1,197 Reputation: 759	Surely it isn't easy to say who is the better of them,I voted for Maradona as I see his skills were more helpful for the team than Pele,I see the things that Pele is better than Maradona are the shots by leg and head and the the inside the penalty area,but Maradona is better in the passing,swerving the ball,dribble,speed,ball control,body balance and acceleration. Also I think the defences were weaker in the past,I think they were stronger in the 80' and 90' than in the 60' and 70'. The player who I see doesn't less than Maradona and Pele in many skills is Rummenigge but he was unlucky by his injures,I say this from only his goals I saw,also there are some great players who I see their all playing and I think they also are near from Pele and Maradona like Henry,Zidane,Ronaldo,C.Ronaldo and Kahn.

07-11-2008, 07:31 PM	#10
rasputin Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 378 Reputation: 1534	Another difference between the two is that the Argentinian team, without Maradona, would not have won the world cup while the Brazilians are tired of winning world cups with or without PelÃ©. I mean, Maradona could carry a team to victory. The team PelÃ© played in had victory written all over them already. Sure he made a difference but the Brazilian team PelÃ© played with probably would have won anyways even if PelÃ© had not been part of them.. When was the last time Argentina was even close to winning the world cup without Maradona? There you go... With Maradona gone, the Argentines have a hard time sealing it.

07-11-2008, 07:44 PM	#12
dashrendar44 Kamina Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Deep In The African Jungles Of China Posts: 2,733 Reputation: 12819	umm...ok? __________________ "Go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb!" ~ Kamina, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann "I've been thinking with my gut since I was 14, and I've come to the conclusion that my guts have shit for brains." ~ Rob Gordon, High Fidelity "All men are potential rapists. ALL MEN. Even the pope!" ~ Shirley Valentine "When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing." ~ John Rambo, Rambo IV "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway." ~ Syd Barrett, Rolling Stone, December 1971

07-12-2008, 02:22 PM	#15
Rogue Immoral Irishman Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,344 Reputation: 20982	Nobody knows the answer, it is only a matter of opinion but I voted for Maradona. Pele of course was an amazing player but what swayed me is the goal referred to in the post above, where he ran from the half way line, beat several players and scored. That is my favourite thing in football, the ability to beat defenders with ease and skill the way players like George Best did and the Argentinian Messi does today. Cristiano Ronaldo is often credited with this asset, but he relies on his pace and rarely leaves a wing back dead by skill alone. He does the stepovers and all that nonsense, but only to turn and pass back. Theo Walcott's assist against Liverpool in the Champions League Quarter Final was out of this world and Messi ironically scored a Maradona-esque goal a year or two ago. These kind of goals and players make football the best sport in the world for me. __________________ â€œBefore you criticize a woman, you should walk a mile in her shoes. That way, when you criticize her, you are a mile away and you have her shoes.â€

07-12-2008, 02:54 PM	#16
rasputin Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 378 Reputation: 1534	I'm impressed by some of the answers here. You fuckers know your footie...

07-12-2008, 04:20 PM	#17
MARADONA Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of the Lost Posts: 1,838 Reputation: 40272	...what about this man???

07-12-2008, 09:07 PM	#19
MARADONA Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of the Lost Posts: 1,838 Reputation: 40272	You right ezzdx ! Roby wasn't good as Diego...but one time...during Napoli - Fiorentina.. he made a goal without pass the ball to anyone...in the face of Diego!!!! Baggio was great...he won a baloon d'or...he was amazing...i love him! ...just as a football player!