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Old 02-04-2018, 12:40 PM   #601
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The Big Black Cock are reporting on a NI assembly member that has been filmed removing a wheel clamp from his car.

Whilst I would normally endorse this type of behaviour, Sinn Fein are obviously a bunch of entitled wankers that view their selfs as exempt from normal human decency. So of course parking to get in the way of every other cunt, and then avoid the circumstances is perfectly reasonable.

As is barring the democratic process just because you can't get your own way. How very snowflake of you all!
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It was Gerry Kelly. Kelly is best remembered for leading the mass breakout from the h blocks. He was on the run for a few years, eventually arrested in Holland and extradited back.

As for a parking violation making him exempt from the rules of human decency, that's a bit over the top, even for you.

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Wheel clamp = parking boot? Nobody likes those fuckers on this side of the world either. The only problem is that if you chop the boot off your vehicle, you are liable to pay for any damage to the boot.
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I would enjoy seeing some one come in here and explain how Ireland won its independence![/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you mean economic independence, as you full well how Ireland became politically independent.

While the UK is an important trading partner, it's not even the top destination for Irish exports. The US gets 22% to Britain's 15, curiously, Belgium is third with 13.

American tech firms Intel, Microsoft and Google are major employers. Tourism is significant but as much as in the past. Agriculture, once the mainstay of the Irish economy is now less than 10% of gnp.
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Regarding Gerry Kelly, I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm can lose its edge over the internet.

It was my understanding that Belgium had over taken the United Kingdom in share of Irish exports. Perhaps your figures are out of date?

Some will argue that the European Union is in fact the greatest receiver of Irish exports, just as they may argue that the EU has the worlds largest economy.

Ireland is neither politically or economically independent. It is subject to EU law, as well as being a net benefactor of EU spending. Whether it can achieve net contributor status remains to be seen, but given that the European Union is committed to "ever closer union" or in other words, becoming a federal state, so long as it is a member, Ireland will only continue to move further away from independence.
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Another threat to Irelands independence to consider is its fastidious commitment to military neutrality. Ireland never joined NATO, and has stayed out of other peoples wars. It didn't even get involved in the near civil war happening on its border, except to detect and arrest terrorists that strayed over it.

In recent years, the European Union has begun sounding out the idea of becoming militarised. I'm not sure what they hope to gain by this, except to further enrage Russia, but what role will Ireland, and Sweden for that matter, be expected to take as the EU moves towards a federation, with a military?
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Noticed today its the 100 year anniversary granting of women's suffrage, limited, in the UK. Given Sinn Fein is lead by Mary Lou McDonald and Michelle O'Neill, the DUP by Arlene Foster and the new Northern Ireland secretary is Karen Bradley, a rather remarkable state of affairs.
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Granting of suffrage to some women, as well as working class men - previously to that granting of suffrage was a gradual process that more or less ensured the "right" people sat in the houses of parliament. Of course it continues today in the form of the Lords, who are appointed, not elected.

By the way, the first terrorist bomb exploded in Ireland in the 20th century was set by Suffragettes, not any evolution of the IRA! There is a bit of a side debate going on whether those jailed for criminal activities linked to gaining votes for women should be posthumously pardoned.
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Probably wise of them, as they don't exactly have a well equipped armed forces. A few hand me down artillery pieces at best, and I don't think they have tanks. Better they stick to tilling the fields and providing for their own people than trying to meddle in other nations wars.
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the Irish defense forces are small, but well equipped and trained. Certainly up to the standards of other west European forces. they have been deployed numerous times on various peace keeping missions. their name in Irish is Óglaigh na hÉireann, which is also claimed by that "other Irish army".
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You're forgetting Grants head of state, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. In fact there has been a woman rather than a man on the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and (Northern) Ireland more than a man from the 19th century onwards. Of course let's not forget the UK has also had two women priministers, and a female deputy priminister, as well as a woman in charge of Scotland. The law has also recently been changed so that a first born female can become heir to the throne ahead of any male, as well as allowing a Catholic to sit on the throne.

Mind you, given the current shambles, the assertion by aforementioned deputy priminister that things would be different if women were in charge is certainly a crock of shit!



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Belfast Telegraph reporting Sinn Fein and the DUP are very close to a deal. The big two have frozen the other parties out of the negotiations. The UUP and SDLP are whining about it. Apparently working on a deal on Irish and same sex marriage that lets both sides save face.
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The three lesser parties had been holding talks without the DUP and Sinn Fein, so I don't know what they are moaning about. The important stuff begins once the assembly starts up again. A change of guard at Westminster and in Dublin may have provided the impetus for meaningful dialogue I suppose.

Still, like Brexit, nothing is decided until every thing is decided.

I think that ultimately Good Friday will need to come to an end. There are too many inconsistencies in the way past criminality is dealt with. It is not really democratic, it is a compromise that doesn't consider the wider needs of the British Isles, and only temporarily appeases the Loyalist and Nationalist rebels.

It is far too rigid to last, and even small changes in the way society moves on from old values have shown just how fragile peace under Good Friday is.
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Theresa the Appeaser is visiting Belfast today, so I expect Northern Ireland to be united with the Republic by this time tomorrow!
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the Taoiseach is heading north also, more signs a deal is close. Although given Fine Gael's long history of selling out the northern nationalists, the party that signed off on partition, if May offered unification, Leo might graciously decline.
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Meanwhile, unionists have their panties in a twist that Mary Lou McDonald used the traditional republican phrase Tiocfaidh ar la(our day will come) to close her acceptance speech in Dublin.

They say this is proof Sinn Fein hasn't changed and its real purpose is to take Northern Ireland out the UK and unite it with the republic. They must have been at the head of their class, a truly gifted bunch to figure that one out.

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I was half joking, although who knows what she would agree to, given her poor performance so far?

My understanding is our government can't just gift Ulster to the Republic, referendums are required on both sides of the border. Does Dublin want Belfast?
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Public opinion in the republic is in favor of reunification, though by no means overwhelming. The major parties both pay lip service to the idea, but the reality of dealing with all those pissed off orangemen is something they would rather avoid.
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Regarding Northern Ireland joining the Republic in “independence” pissed off Orangemen were always going to be a problem.

The obvious solution long term is an autonomous Ulster province. It raises its own taxes, and administers its own budget, makes its own laws, and is responsible for its own trade, borders, and security.

Some form of mutual aid could be agreed between the UK and EIRE in the event of some form of emergency, but if NI is esssentially an independent state, then neither Loyalist or Republican has any real cause for complaint.

It would require the EU keeping its fucking nose out, as certain elements of Good Friday need to be retained - the open borders and trade that existed before we joined the EU.
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They say this is proof Sinn Fein hasn't changed and its real purpose is to take Northern Ireland out the UK and unite it with the republic.
They will always aspire to that aim, that's the main point of their whole existence.
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