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Old 06-02-2006, 01:24 AM   #41
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Old 06-02-2006, 03:05 AM   #42
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Well, tell ya what. You are saying that what they do is not their fault.
As much as it is not my fault that I was born a pretty girl.
Understanding and compassion does not mean letting off the hook.

Of course, people have to be responsible for their actions. You don't let off a burglar on account of him/her being a drug addict and the crime was committed to feed the habit. You punish him for burglary but allow him to get help with his addiction and take away the reason for his criminal behaviour.

In the same way, you can punish the sex offender but at the same time allow him to get help for his psychological problem (usually sex/porn addiction or maybe anger issues or whatever).

I use the term "psychological problem" in the broadest possible sense.

Understanding and showing compassion to the perpetrator is not disrespectful of the victim. If anything, it shows that you comprehend the suffering by the victim (as much as humanely possible) and really want to make sure it does not happen again.

And this might sound heartless, frankly, but there just isn't enough money to lock up every sex offender (or other criminals) for the rest of their lives. In terms of therapy, yes the state can do something but it is also something the individual can do themselves.

For those who think humanity should only be saved for the victim:

"Love your neighbour as you love yourself"
"An eye for an eye and the whole world would be blind"

And finally, at the end of the day, there is no one on the planet who not capable of committing a crime, let alone a sexual offence. There is a thin line between fantasy and reality. People who fantasise about RAPING OTHERS are 99% of the way there anywhere. So the my last word goes to pure self-interest: if you "hypothetically speaking" committed a crime, what would you want?

Ok, kinda got carried away there...

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Old 06-02-2006, 06:55 AM   #43
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Ok,

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Thought you French folks kept up with all this.
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:28 AM   #44
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There is a thin line between fantasy and reality. People who fantasise about RAPING OTHERS are 99% of the way there anywhere. So the my last word goes to pure self-interest: if you "hypothetically speaking" committed a crime, what would you want?
I disagree with you there. There is a very defined line, and I would not consider myself to be "1%" away from raping someone for real. What I would WANT is irrelevant. What I would EXPECT is to be punished to the full extent of the law. That's what should happen when you break the rules.

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Understanding and showing compassion to the perpetrator is not disrespectful of the victim. If anything, it shows that you comprehend the suffering by the victim (as much as humanely possible) and really want to make sure it does not happen again.
You sure about that? If I were the victim, or someone close to me was the victim of rape or other crime, I would want vindication and revenge. Part of being a responsible, law abiding member of this society means not "taking the law into my own hands" and letting the justice system handle the situation. How would it really feel, seeing the criminal treated with the compassion that was not offered to his victim? Seeing precious resources go to housing this criminal in a jail and paying for the criminal's rehabilitation, when this person's crime might affect the victim's ability to continue working and function normally in society.

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And this might sound heartless, frankly, but there just isn't enough money to lock up every sex offender (or other criminals) for the rest of their lives.
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Agreed. Rehabilitation programs are equally expensive. Keeping track of sex offenders is also expensive. As far as I'm concerned, if there is any chance of reoffense, take away the criminal's ability to offend. And the "chemical castration" I suggested is much more humane that what is seen in certain justice systems. Know how they deal with petty theives in some Mid-East Countries?

Sorry, pravjey. Only so much compassion to go around. Saving it for the victims.
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try this.

www.kumimonster.com/home.html


Thought you French folks kept up with all this.
lol. the girl in the front page looks awesome. I'd be interested to know why you thought french folks are keeping in touch with that lol
Is it the old famous 'french kiss' image? lol
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And the "chemical castration" I suggested is much more humane that what is seen in certain justice systems. .
I've read somewhere there is a side effect with chemical castration. The lack of genital feelings pushes the guy to severe anger issues.
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I've read somewhere there is a side effect with chemical castration. The lack of genital feelings pushes the guy to severe anger issues.
*Sigh* Should have known it sounded too good to be true.

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