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05-06-2006, 01:55 PM | #1 |
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Having children
Hi all.
A question I need your opinion to clear out : Is it ok to have babies in such a crazy world ? A world where the multimedia pleasures makes a lot of people spending their time watching movies or surfing the web instead of making sure everyone's ok among friends and family ? A world where you can be blown up by terrorists bombs at any time, a world where the weather gets more and more twisted... Is it ok to put a little baby in that world or is it selfish ? Do we make babies for the pleasure to see them growing fine and be happy or just because we want to do like everybody else ? Snale |
05-06-2006, 02:37 PM | #2 |
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An interesting question, every generation must have asked themselves this, although before the widespread use of contraception it must have been harder to plan families. I'm sure most people were glad their parents brought them into the world, otherwise they couldn't have experienced life, good or bad. Our lives have their happy times and sad times but,
'life is a rollercoaster, but you have to be on the ride to enjoy its ups and downs' humanist Grm |
05-06-2006, 08:11 PM | #3 |
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Here, have a jelly baby. --Dr. Who.
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05-08-2006, 12:26 PM | #5 | |
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05-08-2006, 12:42 PM | #6 | |
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05-08-2006, 01:50 PM | #7 |
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What me worry?
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05-09-2006, 05:17 AM | #8 |
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Hmmmm the conversation doesn't really get forward...
The only good argument I heard about having babies in a world like this one is that the more children you put in the society, the more energy we're gonna have to solve out the problems and to teach others what to do in order to avoid troubles in the future. That is the perfect answer against the selfishness argument. That' why I think it is good to procreate, even on that twisted Earth. |
05-09-2006, 09:42 AM | #9 | |
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whats wrong with being unhappy? ur argument is self contained since u base it on your self-proclaimed ultimate truth that people should be happy we're here to suffer shysnale, cuz that's when u learn the most |
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05-09-2006, 12:09 PM | #10 | |
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05-09-2006, 12:44 PM | #11 | |
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I think the only shame in life is not trying to reach our goals. if you have the chance to know what you want in life, and if you're smart enough to reach it, then I think it's in everybody interest to see you get what you want. You are right PG. I should have been more precise, the problem is not to make sure our children avoid suffering, it's to make sure they have what they need to learn from their pain. |
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05-09-2006, 01:44 PM | #12 |
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There is so much empahsis on learning, learning, learning.
Damn it, so what? Does learning lead to a better life? What is better? Huh? Being happy? Then we are right back to where we were before, and we have come full circle. All this talk about learning is really how to make better choices, how to sit complacently in the eveing and look at the suset like a zombie, yeah, that is what they call peace of mind. After all, I have learned this, we cannot never know any damn thing. Regardless of how bad, how good we lived our time here, we all die. So, what is the point? What can we truly say, we have gained? " Thus, nothing is true, because everything can be destroyed, or negated." --Nieztsche. |
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05-10-2006, 04:48 PM | #15 |
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Thank you, shysnale. You speak very much like a member of your own culture.
As Hegel once remarked, your culture colors your way of thinking. English--Sceptiscism, Empiricism. French--Rationalism Germans--Idealism. is the way I have seen it developed. You know, that is all a woman is, just a damn baby factory. Yeah, just a baby maker with a brain, is what one guy told me once. While he was forcing a dildo down my throat, after reaming my, er you know what completely with it. Yeah, but at that point, that was what I wanted, to be degraded. I suppose, I got my wish. Never be that weak minded anymore. Thanks. |
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