Jimi Hendrix

[Sodoman]

Originally Posted by gal4

More links

MC5

Mitch Ryder & Detroit Wheels

Not everything was so "Strawberry Fields, Forever" at that time.

More over.

Velvet Underground

Pearls Before Swine

The Fugs

The Fugs... Lol. That name cracks me up! I thought it meant the fucking uglies. BTW, your MC5 linky is not working. I didn't know the Velvet Underground had a female drummer; cool.

[Sodoman]

Originally Posted by gal4

Lest we forget,

Amboy Dukes

Why Is A Carrot More Orange Than An Orange?

and

"The Inexhaustible Quest For The Cosmic Cabbage"

Part 1 and Part 2.

I'm a fan of Terrible Ted Nugent; seen him once; he opened up for Lynyrd Skynyrd. The new version of Skynyrd. Kinda surprised he was the opening act but I guess Skynyrd has been more successful overall. Talk about bikers, jesus, I thought I was at a Hell's Angels rally.

[Rheostatic]

Originally Posted by ObsessedWithHer

If you don't consider Led Zeppelin and/or Pink Floyd great, I have to wonder wether you like rock and if you do, what do you consider to be 'great'?

Hendrix was great because he was a groundbreaker; even if malsteem is good technically, he wouldn't have been as good if he didn't have Jimi and Uli's shoulders to stand on.

Agreed. People have gone beyond what Hendrix first did, as is inevitable, but keeping time in perspective, hendrix went light years beyond what everyone else was doing at the time.

In my teens I immersed myself in classic rock and (good) heavy metal music (no hair bands). These days I listen mostly to hard-rock alternative (you can only live in the past for so long), but still throw on Zeppelin, Floyd, and Iron Maiden once in a while. Experiencing the foundations of hard rock/heavy metal allows you to better appreciate what is being done today.

[Sodoman]

Originally Posted by Rheostatic

Agreed. People have gone beyond what Hendrix first did, as is inevitable, but keeping time in perspective, hendrix went light years beyond what everyone else was doing at the time.

In my teens I immersed myself in classic rock and (good) heavy metal music (no hair bands). These days I listen mostly to hard-rock alternative (you can only live in the past for so long), but still throw on Zeppelin, Floyd, and Iron Maiden once in a while. Experiencing the foundations of hard rock/heavy metal allows you to better appreciate what is being done today.

Now imagine what Hendrix would be doing today; with the technology much better in the recording studios and much more effects for guitars, wow! Iron Maiden was my first concert, I won tickets when I was 15. Loud, is what I remember most. I grew up listening to classic rock; when I was 5 and even younger than that, I can remember hearing the Stones, the Who, Ted Nugent, Zeppelin, the Beatles, Aerosmith, the Eagles, and Queen those are some of the bands I was hearing at a young age. Since 1980 and the Mtv era began the level of music has dropped; no comparison to the 60's or 70's
style or talent, overall. I would say only a small handful of 80's bands tried or came close to bringing the music to the level of the 60's and 70's; early Def Leppard, Pat Benatar, the Pretenders, (technically 70's band), U2, John Cougar Melloncamp, Guns'N Roses, Skid Row had a moment and a few songs, and Tesla. Ratt had a few good rock songs also. Beyond that everything was geared towards the rockstar look and the lifestyle of sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll but the music suffered. Groupies, drugs, and making money were more important than a quality product. The grunge era brought a bit of the classic rock style back, in more of a punk/noise kind of way but I enjoyed Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains (best of the grunge bands), and Soundgarden. Then you had a mix in the mid-to-late 90's with some heavier bands like Korn, Disturbed, Godsmack, and the rap/rock fusion bands like Limp biskut, Linkin' Park, and even the Red Hot Chilli Peppers fall into that category; and Eminem. (pure rap) I'm not a big fan of rap, just isn't really music to me; though I like some Eminem for the humor. I don't know what new bands are hot right now as I don't listen to the radio much at all and I don't watch Mtv, except for the show Punk'd and DeathMatch. That's another thing Mtv has gone way off of what it originally started out to be; so has Vh1. (but who cares about them because all they played was Kenny G and Michael Bolten) I actually enjoy a few of their reality shows much more than those two bozo's. I'm sure music will change dramatically again but I don't know if will be for the better? Only time will tell. Party on dudes!

[gal4]

Hendrix is baloney. One of the times I agree with Shynsale.

Ever heard of another black musicisan called Arthur Lee?
He had another band called Love.

Love

Man, or man, you people's taste in music is so fucking conventional, it is sickening, thank you Madison Ave.

I love the marriage nihilism with music, Death Metal.

Death Metal

...and the recent other trends.

Of which see, Mice Trap Distribution

Oh, yeah, and that site is powered by the following Linux Distribution.

ManDriva

and finally the MC5 link, MC5

[innocent]

early Def Leppard, Pat Benatar, the Pretenders, (technically 70's band), U2, John Cougar Melloncamp, Guns'N Roses, Skid Row had a moment and a few songs, and Tesla. Ratt had a few good rock songs also. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains (best of the grunge bands), and Soundgarden. Red Hot Chilli Peppers:
qoute sodoman.



shit man you stalking me? this lot were my life a good few years back!!!!
G'n'R god wet knickers
skid row...seb bach was great but bolan was my man! slave to the grind yeah man!
all that you mentioned here were my youth gone wild era. god this brings back such memories!
i'll admit i was a rock chick for those of you who missed the glam rock photo i posted a while back. no shame involved as that was best time of my life as a young frre single girl. and i was a roadie too! any one heard of wolfsbane??

[shysnale]

As a hard rock/ heavy metal dude, I'm been told 'Without hendrix, your music wouldn't' be around.

Ok.
As I said before, we owe a lot to our elders.
The black people came up with the blues back to slavery times, allowing folks like Chuck Berry to find the roots for rock'n'roll. If these guys weren't around, then ok, my precious hard rock/heavy metal would remain as a dream. When people talk about hard rock roots, they mention the first English Hard Rock bands like Black Sabbath & Judas Priest. Do you really think these guys sound anything like hendrix ? I've heard interviews of Priest's KK Downing lead guitar and he said they come from Birmingham England which is an industrial town. He said 'you could always hear the big hammering factory sound, and I think our influences are coming from that'. It is also interesting to notice that Black Sabbath comes from the same town ! I mean what is Sabbath ? It's rock'n'roll + some dark lancinating melodies. What is JUdas Priest ? It's rock'n'roll + fast hammering victorious melodies. I don't see Hendrix here.

Look at it this way : Punk Rock first came in England with The Sex Pistols in 1977. What is punk rock? It's rock'n'roll + the spirit of Brits suffering from the conservative mentality England was in back then. When did rock'n'roll first start ? Back in the fifties.

Now, I said the Pistols came in 1977. You will probably agree the biggest musical influence before 1977 was the Beatles. When you listen to 'Anarchy in the UK', does it make you feel like you wanna walk on a Strawberry Field Forever? The pistols just took rock'n'roll at its roots (fifties) and add their anger for Puritanism to it. They made a jump from the fifties to their lives without crossing Hendrix. This proves musical styles are not always completing each other.

_______________Snale

[gal4]

Originally Posted by shysnale

As a hard rock/ heavy metal dude, I'm been told 'Without hendrix, your music wouldn't' be around.

Ok.
As I said before, we owe a lot to our elders.
The black people came up with the blues back to slavery times, allowing folks like Chuck Berry to find the roots for rock'n'roll. If these guys weren't around, then ok, my precious hard rock/heavy metal would remain as a dream. When people talk about hard rock roots, they mention the first English Hard Rock bands like Black Sabbath & Judas Priest. Do you really think these guys sound anything like hendrix ? I've heard interviews of Priest's KK Downing lead guitar and he said they come from Birmingham England which is an industrial town. He said 'you could always hear the big hammering factory sound, and I think our influences are coming from that'. It is also interesting to notice that Black Sabbath comes from the same town ! I mean what is Sabbath ? It's rock'n'roll + some dark lancinating melodies. What is JUdas Priest ? It's rock'n'roll + fast hammering victorious melodies. I don't see Hendrix here.

Look at it this way : Punk Rock first came in England with The Sex Pistols in 1977. What is punk rock? It's rock'n'roll + the spirit of Brits suffering from the conservative mentality England was in back then. When did rock'n'roll first start ? Back in the fifties.

Now, I said the Pistols came in 1977. You will probably agree the biggest musical influence before 1977 was the Beatles. When you listen to 'Anarchy in the UK', does it make you feel like you wanna walk on a Strawberry Field Forever? The pistols just took rock'n'roll at its roots (fifties) and add their anger for Puritanism to it. They made a jump from the fifties to their lives without crossing Hendrix. This proves musical styles are not always completing each other.

_______________Snale

What was it that Talleyrand said about the Bourbons, "Forgave nothing, Learned nothing!", yeah applies here as well.

[gal4]

Further, about owing to elders,

An, ma foi, je n'en sais rien; moi je suis mon ancetre.-- Andoche Junot (Duc d'Abrantes) ..

[Rheostatic]

Originally Posted by gal4

Man, or man, you people's taste in music is so fucking conventional, it is sickening, thank you Madison Ave.

Take a pill, Gal4, it's not like we're talking about boy bands here.

My musical tastes and experiences go well beyond Zeppelin and Floyd and Maiden, but this is a rape board, not a music board. I make a post about my reverence for the contributions of Throbbing Gristle, and noone's gonna get it.

but since were getting our hands dirty, time I flex my own "Rock Snob" muscle...

Originally Posted by shysnale

Look at it this way : Punk Rock first came in England with The Sex Pistols in 1977... The pistols just took rock'n'roll at its roots (fifties) and add their anger for Puritanism to it. They made a jump from the fifties to their lives without crossing Hendrix.

WRONG!!!! Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, so wrong! Self-centered europeans, figuring all the new sounds MUST come for the UK or Euro mainland. British punk rock would have amounted to jack shit had it not been for a show at The Roundhouse on July 4th, 1976, where The Ramones opened for the Flamin' Groovies. The Ramones took the bubble gum rock and roll of the 60's to a new extreme, and ignited a spark in the UK. In addition to the Sex Pistols who were in attendance (and, legend has it, pissed in The Ramones beer backstage 'cause it was the "Punk" thing to do), members of the Clash and The Damned were also in attendance and heavily influenced from what they saw. Credit where credit is due, Snale.

And to shut Gal4 up (yeah, good luck there), some credit to other underappreciated pioneers in the field...

Nico
The New York Dolls
Lux Interior
Captain Beefheart

And some of the more innovative groups recording today...

Sigur Ros
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs
The Polyphonic Spree
Metric
The Arcade Fire

[gal4]

Well, thank you Static Reho, whatever, at least some in here have a "good" unconventional music taste.

Unfortunately, you nor anybody else can shut me up.

Capt Beefheart? Oh, for crying out loud. Haha.

But your list is still mundane. Oh, well so much for the scientific read "uncreative" community.

Yeah, buddy, Swinging Madisons

The Misunderstood, Dantarian's Chariot.

But this is turning into a list of the most obuscure bands, and sooner or later one has to pay the rent. oh, yeah, been there, done that.

Hated those damn prom parties, and other krap.

I think it was easier giving HJ's and BJ's.

[shysnale]

Originally Posted by Rheostatic

WRONG!!!! Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, so wrong! Self-centered europeans, figuring all the new sounds MUST come for the UK or Euro mainland.

Self centered european ? Who was the guy in the beginning of that thread who said the three major music roots of last century (blues, Jazz, & rock'n'roll)came from the states ? Could it be me ? Easy tough guy ! Ok ?

British punk rock would have amounted to jack shit had it not been for a show at The Roundhouse on July 4th, 1976, where The Ramones opened for the Flamin' Groovies. The Ramones took the bubble gum rock and roll of the 60's to a new extreme, and ignited a spark in the UK. In addition to the Sex Pistols who were in attendance (and, legend has it, pissed in The Ramones beer backstage 'cause it was the "Punk" thing to do), members of the Clash and The Damned were also in attendance and heavily influenced from what they saw. Credit where credit is due, Snale.

Maybe but the Ramones are not really Hendrix influenced anyway, are they ? You know this 'logic' (who was the first) can be endless. It reminds me of some verbal fights I went through with people saying the very first hard-rock players were Richie Blackmore (Deep Purple) & Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin). True Zep was around before what's recognized as the first hard-rock album (Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath) back in 1969. But when I'm listening to them, I feel more like an old rock band or an extension of some of the Who's psychidelic stuff than hard rock music. This could take us back to the never ending debate about giving labels to music styles, but I'm open for it. Yes this is a rape-board, but it is also the Idle Talk, isn't it ?

an extension of the who's sound.......zeppelin?
omg theyre such a heavy band!! much heavier than the who's music:/
but ill give you that- zep WERE quite psychedelic in some songs- listen to "how many more times" if you havent already!!
ugh i hate sabbath. but i DO like ozzy's solo stuff- weird, huh?:P
zep's such a diverse band, they had so many sounds-i believe they were the 1st hard rock band. in terms of heavy music, they were the 1st.
like hendrix they did things NO ONE did before them.

[gal4]

Hey, folks, let's not fight.
Music is something we all just should listen to and enjoy.
Damn, must be that time of the month again.

I know, I should not have gotten involved in this topic.

It is getting to be talking like about religeon and politics.

Thanks.

i know I'M not fighting:P
(im a lover not a fighter!!hehe)
but anyways, to me, at least, music means more than politics-or life in general.
wanna know a girl who lives her LIFE because of music?? thats me!!lol:P
i can talk about music for days on end if given the chance!!
now excuse me whille i go blast "kashmir"!!!!
:P

[Rheostatic]

Originally Posted by gal4

But your list is still mundane.

Hmmm, perhaps, but I have the distinct impression that any list of bands I were to offer would receive the same response for no other reason than it is not your own, so I will take your critique with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by gal4

Hey, folks, let's not fight.
Music is something we all just should listen to and enjoy.
Damn, must be that time of the month again.

Gal4, the only "gal" I know that gets more loving and huggy-huggy at "that time of the month".

[Rheostatic]

Originally Posted by shysnale

Self centered european ? Who was the guy in the beginning of that thread who said the three major music roots of last century (blues, Jazz, & rock'n'roll)came from the states ? Could it be me ? Easy tough guy ! Ok ?

Fair enough. My bad.

[gal4]

Originally Posted by Rheostatic

Hmmm, perhaps, but I have the distinct impression that any list of bands I were to offer would receive the same response for no other reason than it is not your own, so I will take your critique with a grain of salt.

No, I very much esteem your thoughts, besides, I loved Throbbing Gristle.

Originally Posted by Rheostatic

Gal4, the only "gal" I know that gets more loving and huggy-huggy at "that time of the month".

Oh, well, I am sorry, but this is the only time I will apologize for being a slut.

[gal4]

And now the board can go back to being it ususal mundane self.

This is a public service announcement.

[Sodoman]

Originally Posted by innocent

early Def Leppard, Pat Benatar, the Pretenders, (technically 70's band), U2, John Cougar Melloncamp, Guns'N Roses, Skid Row had a moment and a few songs, and Tesla. Ratt had a few good rock songs also. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains (best of the grunge bands), and Soundgarden. Red Hot Chilli Peppers:
qoute sodoman.



shit man you stalking me? this lot were my life a good few years back!!!!
G'n'R god wet knickers
skid row...seb bach was great but bolan was my man! slave to the grind yeah man!
all that you mentioned here were my youth gone wild era. god this brings back such memories!
i'll admit i was a rock chick for those of you who missed the glam rock photo i posted a while back. no shame involved as that was best time of my life as a young frre single girl. and i was a roadie too! any one heard of wolfsbane??

I did say I was your Cyber Stalker! I'd love to stalk you and have my way with you! Anyways, I grew up in the mid-to-late 80's and early-to-mid 90's. So I'm very familiar with the glam bands. I thought these were the best bands in the mainstream limelight. Also liked the Crue and the Priest.