Namecalling question

[judith]

The rapist's power over his victim has three sources: (1) physical force; (2) fear; and (3) humiliation. The most skilled rapists balance these carefully for maximum impact. "Use the right tool for the job."

j

[ego]

[Vika]

Originally Posted by Rogue

I think I understand it better with the girls. If they are here, they are getting raped in their fantasies, and enjoying it. No matter how many men or how much loss of control, they wish it to happen,

Well, just wanted to point it out...
"They are getting raped in their fantasies" and "they wish it to happen" are different things...

at least for some...

and not always you wish your fantasy to come true

I can talk only about myself, but I can say that my fantasies can be in asbolute vice-versa of what I like in real...

In real life I like ordinar, sensual, caring sex with loving partner, and I would hate even ROLEPLAY about rape in REAL, while I can like it in fantasies...

that's all...

[FinalKey]

Originally Posted by Vika

Well, just wanted to point it out...
"They are getting raped in their fantasies" and "they wish it to happen" are different things...

at least for some...

and not always you wish your fantasy to come true

I can talk only about myself, but I can say that my fantasies can be in asbolute vice-versa of what I like in real...

In real life I like ordinar, sensual, caring sex with loving partner, and I would hate even ROLEPLAY about rape in REAL, while I can like it in fantasies...

that's all...

I agree wholeheartdly, there's no way I'd wish that on a woman especially when the majority of my close family are women and best friends happen to be women. Anyway yea in my fantasy I normally don't do namecalling unless she's still struggling, I never speak unless I have to be rough or tell her to stop screaming or somethin.

[Jasmine]

Interesting question Rogue. I wonder about why a woman would come online with such a derogatory name about themselves. Perhaps it is to get the attention of the males on the board or maybe their self-esteem is really that low.

I believe that many women on here were victims at some point in their lives and low self-esteem, feeling that they somehow deserved it or caused it is part of the pathology of being a abused.

On the flip side, what about the women who select a name that implies they are the physically sublime?

[Rogue]

Originally Posted by Vika

Well, just wanted to point it out...
"They are getting raped in their fantasies" and "they wish it to happen" are different things...

at least for some...

and not always you wish your fantasy to come true

Don't worry Vika, even a year and a half ago I was not new to the board. Unless I say "real life" or something, I'm only talking about fantasy.

[judith]

Originally Posted by judith

The rapist's power over his victim has three sources: (1) physical force; (2) fear; and (3) humiliation. The most skilled rapists balance these carefully for maximum impact. "Use the right tool for the job."

j

Through humiliation, the rapist breaks down the will of the victim and penetrates to her emotional core. When I'm in the mood to be raped, I need to be boned hard emotionally and spiritually, just like I crave being boned hard physically.

The skillful rapist applies objectification (treating the victim callously, without regard for her humanity), shame (actions like stripping the victim, displaying her to others, or verbal abuse degrading the victim), and exploitation (crudely using the victim for his own gratification) to break down the victim's emotional state. If I'm not crying, it's not really rape. When I've been penetrated hard emotionally/spiritually, I feel the aftereffects in my mind for days, just like I sometimes feel the aftereffects in my body the next day from being penetrated hard physically/sexually.

j

[Sternenlied]

Originally Posted by Rogue

Unless I say "real life" or something, I'm only talking about fantasy.

Yes, don't worry about that, Vika.
We usually assume - especially with our long-time members - they are aware of the board's "No real rapes"-policy. So questions like these we usually consider to be fantasy only.
Should this be unclear we ask the posting member to clarify.
In any case you should always consider posts dealing with fantasy scenarios only.

Originally Posted by judith

Through humiliation, the rapist breaks down the will of the victim and penetrates to her emotional core. When I'm in the mood to be raped, I need to be boned hard emotionally and spiritually, just like I crave being boned hard physically.

The skillful rapist applies objectification (treating the victim callously, without regard for her humanity), shame (actions like stripping the victim, displaying her to others, or verbal abuse degrading the victim), and exploitation (crudely using the victim for his own gratification) to break down the victim's emotional state. If I'm not crying, it's not really rape. When I've been penetrated hard emotionally/spiritually, I feel the aftereffects in my mind for days, just like I sometimes feel the aftereffects in my body the next day from being penetrated hard physically/sexually.

I think we should always keep in mind that everyone experiences rape fantasy very individually.
Many people like the "simulation" only.
Men playing the rapist have to be very skillful to do so convincingly, granted. But like BDSM the woman (in this "regular" case - man, rapist; woman, victim) has final control of the scenario. Many role-playing women don't need (or want for that matter) to be emotionally penetrated and broken down.
One should always remember the lines of actual emotional abuse and watch carefully not to trespass them or someone might get hurt pretty bad.
I don't want to overstep any boundaries here but your case sounds somewhat "dangerous" to me. Maybe I just misread you but a need for actual emotional abuse might qualify as a case for professional help required.

Originally Posted by Jasmine

Interesting question Rogue. I wonder about why a woman would come online with such a derogatory name about themselves. Perhaps it is to get the attention of the males on the board or maybe their self-esteem is really that low.

I believe that many women on here were victims at some point in their lives and low self-esteem, feeling that they somehow deserved it or caused it is part of the pathology of being a abused.

On the flip side, what about the women who select a name that implies they are the physically sublime?

I wouldn't assume that a woman who posts using a nickname that is a variation on "slut" has low self-esteem. Perhaps she is just exploring an alternate persona or playing with ideas about identity?

I have been perceived most of my life as a very straight, serious, upright, appropriate, law-abiding politically correct sort of woman. (I'm too old for anyone to think of as innocent. . .) And mostly I am. . . .but I also have an extraordinary libido, adore porn, and am fascinated by extreme and alternate sexual practices like BDSM and FSRP.

So, I love to be called a slut or a cunt and to think of myself that way -- in the appropriate context of course, not in line at the grocery store -- because to do so is to share or reveal my hidden side. . Also, if slut means a woman who loves to fuck, I don't really think of it as an insult. . .

I've never been victimized and my self-esteem is pretty good. Now, there are names I wouldn't appreciate--"dumb" for example, because I'm not. "Fat" because although I'm thin right now, I've had a few weight battles. . .

--sms

[ezzdx]

Originally Posted by Sternenlied

I don't want to overstep any boundaries here but your case sounds somewhat "dangerous" to me. Maybe I just misread you but a need for actual emotional abuse might qualify as a case for professional help required.

I think so.