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Naje · 04-11-2006, 07:50 PM

I agree with Tanya, all the videos I've ever seen are so badly acted out there's just no way they were real.

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Originally Posted by Grm

Thats fine then, as for moderators being unbiased, I'm still writing my rules as I go along, lol

ps, I apologise for saying you need help[mind you I could do with some]
trainee innkeeper
Grm

Well thank you

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prey4me · 04-13-2006, 12:13 PM

A year ago or so there was a funny incident in Boston. A moon-beam left-wing city counselor was sent (email?) images of "US soldiers commiting rape in Iraq"...!!! Or at least, that's what they were supposed to be. He had them blown up poster-size, and wanted to introduce a resolution condemning the war and all attendent US "atrocities."

Even the main daily, the Boston Globe ("Glob"), a subsidiery of the august New York Times printed the pictures!

Faster than Dan Rather could say, "The story is true," bloggers had pointed out that the uniforms were not US General Issue, and that the terrain did not resemble anything in Iraq!

They were from a very mediocre porn site!

The city counselor has, to this day, had to endure the nickname "Taliban Turner."

hard2handle · 04-13-2006, 12:31 PM

I am sorry that some people can not understand the thrill and excitment of being forcefully taken and given extreme pleasure and pain and fear. i think it is WAY hot! not sick just living dangerously in a controlled environement!

Grm · 04-13-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hard2handle

I am sorry that some people can not understand the thrill and excitment of being forcefully taken and given extreme pleasure and pain and fear. i think it is WAY hot! not sick just living dangerously in a controlled environement!

Err?

Grm · 04-13-2006, 05:11 PM

PS Moderators are supposed to be non-biased?

Damn, I need to brush up on the current rules and regulations...

I prefer to think of myself as an innkkeper, speaking of which I ounce saw a pub landlord leap over his bar and punch a seventy year old man in the teeth for 'pissing him off' [ where have I heard that before, hmm?], the landlord then called the police, who came and arrested the blood drenched poor man.
smiling with a toothless grin
Grm

gal4 · 04-15-2006, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hard2handle

I am sorry that some people can not understand the thrill and excitment of being forcefully taken and given extreme pleasure and pain and fear. i think it is WAY hot! not sick just living dangerously in a controlled environement!

Controlled environment, huh? Yeah, babe, and you are being beaten, slapped, have your tits pinched with a pair of pliers, gagged so heavily, can hardly utter a sound, and mean while all this is going on, some one in the next room is taping this krap happening on me?
Thanks to google, all inclusive and exhausting google, I came up on a site selling this krap.
How the hell would you feel, to see yourself in the most vulnerable moment taped for sales to possibley thousands of people? And you not get a damn cent? Screw this, that is one of the reasons I give up on roleplay sometime back.
Oh, yeah, shall I sue the site? How can I, without jeporadizing my beginning medical career and exposing my family to shame? Yeah, they got me, they definitely got me, because of my weakness, my need and requirement at that point in time.
Tell you what, if any of you ever come across those films, you will find that the action is real, not faked. Sort of like one force orgasm site, theat kept repeating, the orgasm is real, not faked. Yeah, like I believe.

Lupo · 04-15-2006, 07:54 AM

I believe hard2handle used the term controlled environement . If that is the case, there will hardly be anyone taping anything. If so, it wouldn't be a controlled environement.
Besides, there are not that many places where you can find the real deal ( even if they claime it to be ). Most are payed very well for what they do. To find the real deal, you'll need to find some very well hidden underground BBS's and that's not easy and who want that anyway...

Brek · 04-16-2006, 08:51 AM

I love that argument: What if these "not real" rapes are real?

What if I drive my car and hit an invisible person? A tragedy, certainly. But not one I am culpable for. The authentic rape fantasy community responds with outrage against real rapes, the usage of "rape fantasy" as a shield for actual rape, or the purchase or support of any authentic malcontents. Whether or not you agree with the positive, libertarian, sexually-free alternative we propose (which, by the way, is supported by innumerable decidedly feminist thinkers), to call us apologists for rape is ludicrous.

Further, since the vast majority of those participating in these fantasies never rape, and indeed at least a sizable number as anecdotal evidence makes clear are LESS likely to turn to negative sources thanks to the finding of a supportive community and experience other benefits such as sexual joy and a general feeling of liberation, perhaps judgment could be put aside for honest consideration of our alternative! I could respond that it is terrible when people do NOT do this: The urges will remain real, but if put into a safe alternative place, perhaps they can be cured or channeled to more constructive and mutually beneficial ends?

Oh, and there are no shortage (nor should there be) of rape survivor forums on the Internet. What is in drastic neglect are shelters and resources for those trapped in marriages that are basically rape in slow motion, not to mention a criminal justice system that can deal with the matter of rape without destroying the lives of BOTH victim and suspect and encourage rape reporting, especially in the cases of immigrant women! (And note that this was the conclusion of a Law and Order: SVU episode too, which I watch with little guilt or feeling of self-contradiction: Both a victim and suspect were humiliated, their character assaulted, their life undermined, and at the end the jury's verdict is never heard. Speaking of: Mariska Hargitay/Olivia Benson rape fanfic, anyone?

)

To address another issue: The fact that someone can tape you in an intimate moment and humiliate you, while it may be so much of a concern for you that you (unfortunately) no longer feel safe to enjoy yourself, only shows that such violation of privacy and insensitivity (not to mention crass greed and commercialism) is problematic. Not the fantasy itself. To avoid this, I believe that there are "rape contracts" that could include non-disclosure (owing to the obvious mental-wellbeing and reputation difficulties of such a tape being on the open market) as a condition.

I am certainly not sorry that others do not feel the same way we do. Diversity of fantasy is precisely what we seek. However, there is closed-mindedness and judgmentalism on all fronts, a tendency we all have a responsibility to fight (and comments like yours, however well-intentioned, do not help). What is the problem is when someone would actually find such a fantasy erotic in the right setting but is afraid to try it or to communicate with their partner(s).

Oh, and while I truly doubt that even a substantial minority of the tapes are real (the sites most loudly proclaiming that the action is real are the ones most obviously using professional lighting, the same one or two rooms, ludicrously impractical bondage applications, obviously-choreographed scenes, and recycling the same fifteen to twenty actors), if that's the case then one has to learn the telltale signs to avoid purchasing a real rape and thus giving money to those who have committed a crime. What would be immoral in that case wouldn't be the fantasy but something associated with the purchase of it. The signs are the ones I alluded to above. Also, the FBI is VERY keen to stop child abuse and rape videos, so much so that the "real" market, however large it was, is in serious decline.

MarcEdeSade · 04-17-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Priam

It begs the question of how sensetive we are to be to victims who come to this site looking for help in a time of emotional crisis, only to find a fetish site dedicated to a crime they've suffered through, but instead of ushering themselves out quietly, attack us as though we were the criminals.

On the one hand, it seems like we may actually be doing something wrong; I know I've had to struggle with such feelings of guilt all my life because of this dark streak in my mind (it doesn't help much that my closest friend is a rape victim whom I've had to counsel on occasion). It could be that we are part of the problem.

So where does that leave us? What are we to feel and do? I ask all of you brave users who have come forward about your own personal stories of survival and state whether or not we are being insensitive or are just part of the problem. All opinions welcome.

1: we Are being insensitive.

2: we are NOT part of the problem.

3: If they attack, they get bit. There are bigger tragedies in life than rape, and things far worse than getting harassed on a message-board. Life is just a bunch of stuff that happens to you and how you react to it.

MarcEdeSade · 04-17-2006, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grm

PS Moderators are supposed to be non-biased?

Damn, I need to brush up on the current rules and regulations...

I prefer to think of myself as an innkkeper, speaking of which I ounce saw a pub landlord leap over his bar and punch a seventy year old man in the teeth for 'pissing him off' [ where have I heard that before, hmm?], the landlord then called the police, who came and arrested the blood drenched poor man.
smiling with a toothless grin
Grm

hey GRM....what makes one a "junior member" or "senior member", eh? been here for 4 months as marcedesade, and probably another 6 before that as markedesade (lost password) I see people with 2 posts "senior" and 150 "junior"...

Grm · 04-17-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcEdeSade

hey GRM....what makes one a "junior member" or "senior member", eh? been here for 4 months as marcedesade, and probably another 6 before that as markedesade (lost password) I see people with 2 posts "senior" and 150 "junior"...

Well its never been explained to me, but as far as I know it is to do with posts i.e; up to 25/30 posts junior member; 25/30-100 posts, member; senior member 100 + posts. What comes after that I don't know, but Breck will probably be over a 1,000 before the end of the week, so he might be called 'His Holiness Breck The First' by then.
Who knows

Grm

04-13-2006, 12:13 PM	#82
prey4me Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 482 Reputation: 5552	Fake Rapes? A year ago or so there was a funny incident in Boston. A moon-beam left-wing city counselor was sent (email?) images of "US soldiers commiting rape in Iraq"...!!! Or at least, that's what they were supposed to be. He had them blown up poster-size, and wanted to introduce a resolution condemning the war and all attendent US "atrocities." Even the main daily, the Boston Globe ("Glob"), a subsidiery of the august New York Times printed the pictures! Faster than Dan Rather could say, "The story is true," bloggers had pointed out that the uniforms were not US General Issue, and that the terrain did not resemble anything in Iraq! They were from a very mediocre porn site! The city counselor has, to this day, had to endure the nickname "Taliban Turner."

04-16-2006, 08:51 AM	#88
Brek Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 106 Reputation: 0	I love that argument: What if these "not real" rapes are real? What if I drive my car and hit an invisible person? A tragedy, certainly. But not one I am culpable for. The authentic rape fantasy community responds with outrage against real rapes, the usage of "rape fantasy" as a shield for actual rape, or the purchase or support of any authentic malcontents. Whether or not you agree with the positive, libertarian, sexually-free alternative we propose (which, by the way, is supported by innumerable decidedly feminist thinkers), to call us apologists for rape is ludicrous. Further, since the vast majority of those participating in these fantasies never rape, and indeed at least a sizable number as anecdotal evidence makes clear are LESS likely to turn to negative sources thanks to the finding of a supportive community and experience other benefits such as sexual joy and a general feeling of liberation, perhaps judgment could be put aside for honest consideration of our alternative! I could respond that it is terrible when people do NOT do this: The urges will remain real, but if put into a safe alternative place, perhaps they can be cured or channeled to more constructive and mutually beneficial ends? Oh, and there are no shortage (nor should there be) of rape survivor forums on the Internet. What is in drastic neglect are shelters and resources for those trapped in marriages that are basically rape in slow motion, not to mention a criminal justice system that can deal with the matter of rape without destroying the lives of BOTH victim and suspect and encourage rape reporting, especially in the cases of immigrant women! (And note that this was the conclusion of a Law and Order: SVU episode too, which I watch with little guilt or feeling of self-contradiction: Both a victim and suspect were humiliated, their character assaulted, their life undermined, and at the end the jury's verdict is never heard. Speaking of: Mariska Hargitay/Olivia Benson rape fanfic, anyone? ) To address another issue: The fact that someone can tape you in an intimate moment and humiliate you, while it may be so much of a concern for you that you (unfortunately) no longer feel safe to enjoy yourself, only shows that such violation of privacy and insensitivity (not to mention crass greed and commercialism) is problematic. Not the fantasy itself. To avoid this, I believe that there are "rape contracts" that could include non-disclosure (owing to the obvious mental-wellbeing and reputation difficulties of such a tape being on the open market) as a condition. I am certainly not sorry that others do not feel the same way we do. Diversity of fantasy is precisely what we seek. However, there is closed-mindedness and judgmentalism on all fronts, a tendency we all have a responsibility to fight (and comments like yours, however well-intentioned, do not help). What is the problem is when someone would actually find such a fantasy erotic in the right setting but is afraid to try it or to communicate with their partner(s). Oh, and while I truly doubt that even a substantial minority of the tapes are real (the sites most loudly proclaiming that the action is real are the ones most obviously using professional lighting, the same one or two rooms, ludicrously impractical bondage applications, obviously-choreographed scenes, and recycling the same fifteen to twenty actors), if that's the case then one has to learn the telltale signs to avoid purchasing a real rape and thus giving money to those who have committed a crime. What would be immoral in that case wouldn't be the fantasy but something associated with the purchase of it. The signs are the ones I alluded to above. Also, the FBI is VERY keen to stop child abuse and rape videos, so much so that the "real" market, however large it was, is in serious decline. Last edited by Brek; 04-16-2006 at 08:59 AM.

04-13-2006, 12:31 PM	#83
hard2handle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2 Reputation: 10	I am sorry that some people can not understand the thrill and excitment of being forcefully taken and given extreme pleasure and pain and fear. i think it is WAY hot! not sick just living dangerously in a controlled environement!

04-13-2006, 05:11 PM	#85
Grm Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Black Country Posts: 956 Reputation: 1332	PS Moderators are supposed to be non-biased? Damn, I need to brush up on the current rules and regulations... I prefer to think of myself as an innkkeper, speaking of which I ounce saw a pub landlord leap over his bar and punch a seventy year old man in the teeth for 'pissing him off' [ where have I heard that before, hmm?], the landlord then called the police, who came and arrested the blood drenched poor man. smiling with a toothless grin Grm

04-15-2006, 07:54 AM	#87
Lupo Privileged Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 447 Reputation: 571	I believe hard2handle used the term controlled environement . If that is the case, there will hardly be anyone taping anything. If so, it wouldn't be a controlled environement. Besides, there are not that many places where you can find the real deal ( even if they claime it to be ). Most are payed very well for what they do. To find the real deal, you'll need to find some very well hidden underground BBS's and that's not easy and who want that anyway...