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Old 09-16-2018, 11:53 PM   #921
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The Soviets supplied Libya, Syria, Iran. The supply didn’t need to be direct, and I’m sure the commisars would have made it dry up if they didn’t want the IRA to have arms.

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Of course the IRA is responsible for their actions. My point, which you missed completely, is without the clumsy often brutal handling of the early days of the troubles by the British government the IRA would have remained the small, ineffective organization it had become by 1968.
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Yes, I obviously missed your point before I made it when I wrote about the discovery of the letter from the RUC chief about the consequence of banning civil rights marches.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:05 PM   #925
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The EU are finally coming round to the idea that technology could be used to monitor customs at the border between the UK and Ireland. This would mean no border infrastructure, and no reason for so called regulatory alignment or a customs union.

Freedom of movement of people, which should never have been an issue could continue so long as Ireland stays out of Schengen. So long that is, as the IRA behaves itself.
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A teenager was shot once in each arm and each leg this morning in the Ballymony area.
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Tom, you may be interested to know that three civil test cases have been selected and are being heard at the High Court in London to assess levels of compensation that should be paid to those injured or bereaved by the Bloody Sunday shootings.

The BBCs Northern Ireland web page is covering it.
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The Ulster Boxing Council has agreed to pay £8500 compensation to a former amatuer boxer after the Equalities Commission backed a case in which the boxer alleged that he was not picked for the Northern Ireland junior Commonwealth team in 2015 because he is a protestant.

Whilst they say the payment is not an admission of guilt, the UBC have released a statement that the entire Northern Ireland boxing community were shocked the boxer was not selected at the time, and have since reorganised their selection process, and re-staffed the selection board.

The boxer, now a professional in his early twenties, has trained at the same West Belfast gym since his childhood, and despite training in a club in a Catholic area of the city, his religious background is well known amongst his peers. He stated that to his knowledge, none of the boxers selected for Northern Irelands 2015 Commonwealth boxing team was from a protestant background. He himself was recommended for selection, but was not even given a chance to a “play-off” bout to secure a place.
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Not bad for an afternoons work.

What reasoning did the judge give for the sum?
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I got side tracked whilst catching up on the Bloody Sunday case. Seems two members of Official IRA could be considered for criminal proceedings relating to activities on the day. Which leads me to wonder if there is a way to bring civil proceedings against various paramilitary factions where criminal prosecutions aren’t happening?

In particular the Guildford and Birmingham pub bombings. In the case of Birmingham, a decision that suspects cannot be named in a coroners inquiry was recently upheld. Survivors and bereaved relatives have been campaigning for justice for decades. Could Sinn Fein end up in court?
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Not bad for an afternoons work.

What reasoning did the judge give for the sum?
Well, taking a high velocity round in the face was a factor. But reading the article the primary motivation the man was forced to live under a cloud of suspicion that he was responsible for the shooting. Not sure I buy this. I agree that physical injuries deserve compensation, but unless this guy was living up the shankill for the past 30 years, I don't think being a bloody sunday victim anywhere in the nationalist north, or the republic for that matter would have been an impediment, quite the opposite..

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I've just been reading about a newly released film, A Mother Brings Her Son to be Shot. It is about a mother bringing up two sons in an area of Londonderry still under paramilitary control after the Good Friday agreement, and dealing with life under paramilitary vigilantism.

In 2017 there were 24 paramilitary style shooting in Northern Ireland. Up to August this year there have been 19. Birmingham has the highest instances of gun crime in the United Kingdom at the moment, but the sort of violence we are seeing a resurgence of in Londonderry is unique to the province.
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Let examine the reasons for paramilitary shootings. the vast majority were republican, the loyalist incidents were mostly gangland feuds, although a few of these on the republican side as well.

Punishment shootings are usually innated by members of the local population Its not as though the dissidents have a huge intelligence network telling them whose stealing cars or selling drugs.

The nationalist community still places more faith in what remains of the IRA than it does in the conventional authorities.

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Or they are still too afraid of the IRA to go to the police.
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Read something new on the the hunger strikes. After the fourth death, the IRA leadership inside Long Kesh had brokered a preliminary deal with the British government to end the stand off. There would be no mention of political status for the prisoners, saving face for the Thatcher government. The volunteers would be permitted to wear their own clothing, fulfilling a key demand of the prisoners

This was passed to the IRA leadership outside. Gerry, I was never in the IRA, Adam's scuttled the deal. Six more volunteers died a slow death. No doubt Gerry sat down to a hearty supper after his decision. Reinforces my long held belief that Gerry Adam's is a spineless cunt.

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Civil rights campaigners have been giving varying perspectives on the 50th anniversaryof what many pin point as the start of the Troubles.

Londonderry 1968, an illegal civil rights march was violently broken up by the RUC. Marchers from both Catholic and Protestant areas of the city describe how the protest was attacked, and how rioting broke out in response. Although the protest was organised over the perceived discrimination against Catholics by the unionist dominated city council, at the time many working class protestsnts were denied the vote because they did not own property.

One protester who went on to become an Ulster Unionist Party councillor in the city described the aftermath of the attack. According to him, attacks on the Fountain, an council estate in a Protestant area of the city, began, and after that, in Londonderry at least, the civil rights movement was no longer a united one. It was the beginnings of sectarianism in the city.
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An ITV television documentary will tonight name a living person suspected of carrying out the Birmingham pub bombings. For apparent security reasons, the suspect, who now lives in Belfast, a convicted IRA terrorist, can't be named on the internet, or in Northern Ireland. I don't know if the documentary "The Hunt for the Birmingham Bombers" will be available on the ITV catch up service, but it might be worth a punt.

The sister of an 18 year old woman killed by one of the bombs, is understandably angry that a new inquest in to the bombing will not investigate who was responsible. She is also angry that the person is living in the United Kingdom and not being investigated, but walking around free.
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Ok, this is confusing!

Northern Ireland Attorney General, John Larkin in November 2013. "There should be no further police investigations, inquests or inquiries into any relevant killings that took place before the signing of the Good Friday Agreement in 1998".

According to the BBC website yesterday, Northern Ireland Attorney General John Larkin has called for a new investigation in to the killing of 6 IRA members in the New Lodge area of Belfast in 1973.

Still no mention any where of a new investigation in to the Birmingham pub bombings though.
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FR may be right about the deteriorating situation in Derry. The disconnect between the nationalist population and the PSNI is nearly total. Its reached the point that the PSNI is offering promotions to constables who flunked the sergeants exam if they agree to be posted to Derry.
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