I don't understand incest videos - Rape Board

MKP4 · 08-26-2006, 12:55 AM

Okay - having just replied to Rheo's "vrigin rape" topic. I have a gripe of my own. Its not so much that I'm judging people who fantasize about incest .. let's table that. I just don't UNDERSTAND incest videos.

Here is that I mean. Say you have a foot fetish. Video on this topic actually show FEET. Say you like bondage. A bondage video shows ROPE and people TIED UP. You get the idea.

A video that shows "incest" just seems like someone raping/molesting a (sometimes) younger girl. It seems near impossible to depict familial relationship in a video.

So is it just me? Can't you just pretend in any rape video that the victim is related to the perp? And Voila! Incest video.

Or am I missing something?

Sodoman · 08-26-2006, 01:21 AM

I think as a good amount of "real" incest that happens in life, the victim is usually a child and none of these vids that are shot by people running sites that are trying to be somewhat legal are going to depict pedophilia. Now incest victims being young children are not always the case, so I guess what these sites making these vids are relying on is the person(s) imagination who is watching. Just my thoughts. I really don't get the incest thing either?

MKP4 · 08-26-2006, 02:20 AM

Yeah - the thought of someone molesting or raping kids just turns my stomache.

Leave the kiddies alone.

Rheostatic · 08-26-2006, 09:33 AM

I saw one once with an old man and a young porn actress, where he nailed her anally, and she kept saying "daddy, it hurts! It hurts, daddy!" to the camera. To me it was just really bad acting and very humerous. But I suppose if incest is your thing, having the rape victim call the assailant "daddy" would add to the fantasy.

MKP4 · 08-26-2006, 10:15 AM

Okay - I guess that makes a bit more sense. But you would never call someone "Brother" or "Sister" - that would just be creepy.

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Eh - I guess they DO do that in some cultures (call people "Brother" or "Sister" intead of a first name). Doesn't change it from being creepy.

kodavictimm · 08-26-2006, 11:39 AM

I hear old joke.

Billy Bob tells Daddy I'm getting married to Becky Lou down the street because she is a virgin.

Daddy says boy if she not good enough for her daddy or brothers then she is not good enough for you too!

More serious now. Do adopting or step brother or sister turned you off because I think it is leagally incesting too. Mom and stepson too. Stepdaddy and a stepdaughter.

Yes it is true that much is pedophilia stuffs. And yes too is it true that some cultures allows this and some allow sex at different ages. We must live with what we are where we are and do the lawful thing but in our dreams we can be bad.

MKP4 · 08-26-2006, 01:38 PM

Wow - Koda's up to like 110+ posts. Nice.

Yeah .. that seems to make sense - just some things creep me out.

Sodoman · 08-26-2006, 01:42 PM

Any relative with step or in-law is just a title, no relation, the same thing goes towards legal adoption as it's just a piece of paper that gives that title as well, however I'm not sure that legally you couldn't and wouldn't face same charges as if the legally adopted son/daughter was your biological offspring. Cause when you're talking about legally adopted or step child then age becomes a factor and usually they're at least minors and mostly very young and then it would be criminal. Now step bro/sis, step mom/dad or bro/sis in-law or even cousin by marriage would really depend on age difference and that's about it as there is no relation so it wouldn't be incest but also could take the morality of the situation and would this be hurting others into consideration.

MKP4 · 08-28-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sodoman

Any relative with step or in-law is just a title, no relation, the same thing goes towards legal adoption as it's just a piece of paper that gives that title as well, however I'm not sure that legally you couldn't and wouldn't face same charges as if the legally adopted son/daughter was your biological offspring. Cause when you're talking about legally adopted or step child then age becomes a factor and usually they're at least minors and mostly very young and then it would be criminal. Now step bro/sis, step mom/dad or bro/sis in-law or even cousin by marriage would really depend on age difference and that's about it as there is no relation so it wouldn't be incest but also could take the morality of the situation and would this be hurting others into consideration.

I think there's an additional point to consider. When you enter into a familial relationship, there are certain additional ethical expectations beyond purely legal ones.

Mother and fathers don't act sexually towards their children (adopted or otherwise) because it is expected that parential love is in no way self-serving. Its a very traditional approach to families, but one that I subscribe to.

Mudding the and erotic love with a selfless, parental love is instinctively creepy in my book. But my post wasn't even to critique incest - I REALLY just didn't understand how it is depicted in videos. That's all.

Sodoman · 08-28-2006, 12:57 AM

I think it's creepy too, I wasn't saying that I would ever do or condone such actions but I've seen stories in real life of cousins who were having an intimate relationship and even a brother/sister, granted they didn't know they were bro and sis, split up at a young age and never knew each other, just happened to meet and fall in love. However after finding out they were brother and sister they still kept the relationship going.

I can imagine that most girls would be traumatized by such a thing and I don't think most guys would feel great about doing their sister either. I did put a kind of legal spin and now I'll put my personal spin. I don't think family should be doing anything like that, I was raised that family is unconditional love and you aren't suppose to do anything bad to your family, you're suppose to support them through the good and the bad times. Be their for each other but not like that. Now the movies thing, I'm not sure how you portray incest in films other than silly dialogue as in the girl getting fucked calling the guy daddy or refering to him as her brother, cousin or whatever family member and it's not a turn on for me, though I've seen some of these types of vids that were decent as far as just the vid itself goes.

menace · 08-28-2006, 05:46 AM

Do cousins count as incest?

Sodoman · 08-28-2006, 02:05 PM

Yes, they're still related to you by blood. Now I think once it becomes 6th cousin or something down the line like that then it is no longer legally incest but I'm not sure of the exact terms. For me, as long as you are related to a person then it's incest.

menace · 08-29-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sodoman

Yes, they're still related to you by blood. Now I think once it becomes 6th cousin or something down the line like that then it is no longer legally incest but I'm not sure of the exact terms. For me, as long as you are related to a person then it's incest.

I wasn't talking about the law, but what people think about it. Although now that you mention it, the laws in my coutry are a lot less strict than the US; here even your first cousin is fair game...

Rogue · 08-29-2006, 09:24 PM

The fact is the reason it is "near impossible to depict familial relationship in a video" is because the videos you're referring to are the same ones that have no character detail or development. The same reason we're relying on the victim's facial expressions and crying to show us her pain, because we have no knowledge of her mental pain, how can we when we don't know who she is.

Sodoman · 08-29-2006, 10:10 PM

Well Menace, the laws in "I don't know" seem to be very liberal.

I've got a cousin that is very cute little 18 year old but I'm too close with my family and the way I was brought up prevents me from doing anything like that. However I have a friend that has several cousins that he says he'd screw if he got the chance. I've seen one pic of one of his cousins and she is hot.

joehill · 09-03-2006, 05:16 PM

all fantasies boards and forums are mostly just that not real so what ever turns you on its ok for me as long as you know what is real and what is not

MarcEdeSade · 09-04-2006, 12:44 AM

Eh. Everyone's related somehow, and while incest has been limited, in times, to the very low and very upper class, it has been practiced since the dawn of human history.

The big myth is that it causes defective gene pools. Much the opposite. Inbeeding actually cleans the gene pool of fatal recessive traits. It does, however bring out normally rare negative recessive traits that are not fatal, so what's genetically superior may be physically inferior.

Go figure.

kodavictimm · 09-04-2006, 12:49 AM

To me family is family. But there are some adopted cousins and there are some by marriage relations that are hot hot hot. But the family line is more than just blood to me so I do not pursue or even fantasize about.

Ok. Maybe I have fantasized once or twice.

Especially when I was younger. But now I know there enough sexy women in the world for me to fantasize about without being so close to home.

MKP4 · 09-04-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue

The fact is the reason it is "near impossible to depict familial relationship in a video" is because the videos you're referring to are the same ones that have no character detail or development. The same reason we're relying on the victim's facial expressions and crying to show us her pain, because we have no knowledge of her mental pain, how can we when we don't know who she is.

Good point - very good point.

MKP4 · 09-04-2006, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by joehill

all fantasies boards and forums are mostly just that not real so what ever turns you on its ok for me as long as you know what is real and what is not

That brings up an interesting thought .. I mean .. you can PRETEND to be raped .. but can you PRETEND to be cousins or siblings with a non-familial partner??

I guess you COULD do it in a pure fantasy sense (as creepifying as it is). I'm trying to keep an open mind since we're all in the same "fantasy-sex" boat.

Hmm .. no .. still can get over the creepiness barrier on this one. In the back of my mind, I still have a problem with the "desire" part of it. For instance, I have absolutely ZERO desire to rape a woman. Its too messy. I'm too lazy. And hell, legally, morally, mentally, ethically, its just not worth it. To that point, I've always been fascinated by rape, even as a kid. But I've never wanted to try it, even as a kid.

But I can't help but think that incest lovers, really DO want it and if given the chance, would seriously consider it. Maybe I'm wrong ..

MKP4

08-26-2006, 12:55 AM	#1
MKP4 Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 207 Reputation: 51	I don't understand incest videos Okay - having just replied to Rheo's "vrigin rape" topic. I have a gripe of my own. Its not so much that I'm judging people who fantasize about incest .. let's table that. I just don't UNDERSTAND incest videos. Here is that I mean. Say you have a foot fetish. Video on this topic actually show FEET. Say you like bondage. A bondage video shows ROPE and people TIED UP. You get the idea. A video that shows "incest" just seems like someone raping/molesting a (sometimes) younger girl. It seems near impossible to depict familial relationship in a video. So is it just me? Can't you just pretend in any rape video that the victim is related to the perp? And Voila! Incest video. Or am I missing something?

08-26-2006, 01:21 AM	#2
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	I think as a good amount of "real" incest that happens in life, the victim is usually a child and none of these vids that are shot by people running sites that are trying to be somewhat legal are going to depict pedophilia. Now incest victims being young children are not always the case, so I guess what these sites making these vids are relying on is the person(s) imagination who is watching. Just my thoughts. I really don't get the incest thing either? __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck."

08-26-2006, 09:33 AM	#4
Rheostatic Rape Board Chancellor Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Posts: 409 Reputation: 768	I saw one once with an old man and a young porn actress, where he nailed her anally, and she kept saying "daddy, it hurts! It hurts, daddy!" to the camera. To me it was just really bad acting and very humerous. But I suppose if incest is your thing, having the rape victim call the assailant "daddy" would add to the fantasy. __________________ In Somnium, Veritas

08-26-2006, 10:15 AM	#5
MKP4 Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 207 Reputation: 51	Okay - I guess that makes a bit more sense. But you would never call someone "Brother" or "Sister" - that would just be creepy. . . Eh - I guess they DO do that in some cultures (call people "Brother" or "Sister" intead of a first name). Doesn't change it from being creepy. Last edited by MKP4; 08-26-2006 at 01:40 PM.

08-26-2006, 01:42 PM	#8
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	Any relative with step or in-law is just a title, no relation, the same thing goes towards legal adoption as it's just a piece of paper that gives that title as well, however I'm not sure that legally you couldn't and wouldn't face same charges as if the legally adopted son/daughter was your biological offspring. Cause when you're talking about legally adopted or step child then age becomes a factor and usually they're at least minors and mostly very young and then it would be criminal. Now step bro/sis, step mom/dad or bro/sis in-law or even cousin by marriage would really depend on age difference and that's about it as there is no relation so it wouldn't be incest but also could take the morality of the situation and would this be hurting others into consideration. __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck."

08-26-2006, 02:20 AM	#3
MKP4 Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 207 Reputation: 51	Yeah - the thought of someone molesting or raping kids just turns my stomache. Leave the kiddies alone.

08-26-2006, 11:39 AM	#6
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	I hear old joke. Billy Bob tells Daddy I'm getting married to Becky Lou down the street because she is a virgin. Daddy says boy if she not good enough for her daddy or brothers then she is not good enough for you too! More serious now. Do adopting or step brother or sister turned you off because I think it is leagally incesting too. Mom and stepson too. Stepdaddy and a stepdaughter. Yes it is true that much is pedophilia stuffs. And yes too is it true that some cultures allows this and some allow sex at different ages. We must live with what we are where we are and do the lawful thing but in our dreams we can be bad.

08-26-2006, 01:38 PM	#7
MKP4 Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 207 Reputation: 51	Wow - Koda's up to like 110+ posts. Nice. Yeah .. that seems to make sense - just some things creep me out.

08-28-2006, 12:57 AM	#10
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	I think it's creepy too, I wasn't saying that I would ever do or condone such actions but I've seen stories in real life of cousins who were having an intimate relationship and even a brother/sister, granted they didn't know they were bro and sis, split up at a young age and never knew each other, just happened to meet and fall in love. However after finding out they were brother and sister they still kept the relationship going. I can imagine that most girls would be traumatized by such a thing and I don't think most guys would feel great about doing their sister either. I did put a kind of legal spin and now I'll put my personal spin. I don't think family should be doing anything like that, I was raised that family is unconditional love and you aren't suppose to do anything bad to your family, you're suppose to support them through the good and the bad times. Be their for each other but not like that. Now the movies thing, I'm not sure how you portray incest in films other than silly dialogue as in the girl getting fucked calling the guy daddy or refering to him as her brother, cousin or whatever family member and it's not a turn on for me, though I've seen some of these types of vids that were decent as far as just the vid itself goes. __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck."

08-28-2006, 05:46 AM	#11
menace Privileged Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Who knows? Posts: 2,436 Reputation: 26964	Do cousins count as incest?

08-28-2006, 02:05 PM	#12
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	Yes, they're still related to you by blood. Now I think once it becomes 6th cousin or something down the line like that then it is no longer legally incest but I'm not sure of the exact terms. For me, as long as you are related to a person then it's incest. __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck."

08-29-2006, 09:24 PM	#14
Rogue Immoral Irishman Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,344 Reputation: 20982	The fact is the reason it is "near impossible to depict familial relationship in a video" is because the videos you're referring to are the same ones that have no character detail or development. The same reason we're relying on the victim's facial expressions and crying to show us her pain, because we have no knowledge of her mental pain, how can we when we don't know who she is.

08-29-2006, 10:10 PM	#15
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	Well Menace, the laws in "I don't know" seem to be very liberal. I've got a cousin that is very cute little 18 year old but I'm too close with my family and the way I was brought up prevents me from doing anything like that. However I have a friend that has several cousins that he says he'd screw if he got the chance. I've seen one pic of one of his cousins and she is hot. __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck."

09-03-2006, 05:16 PM	#16
joehill Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 49 Reputation: 13	all fantasies boards and forums are mostly just that not real so what ever turns you on its ok for me as long as you know what is real and what is not

09-04-2006, 12:44 AM	#17
MarcEdeSade Amoralist Libertine Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 391 Reputation: 1262	Eh. Everyone's related somehow, and while incest has been limited, in times, to the very low and very upper class, it has been practiced since the dawn of human history. The big myth is that it causes defective gene pools. Much the opposite. Inbeeding actually cleans the gene pool of fatal recessive traits. It does, however bring out normally rare negative recessive traits that are not fatal, so what's genetically superior may be physically inferior. Go figure. __________________ Pain is inevitable....suffering is optional

09-04-2006, 12:49 AM	#18
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	To me family is family. But there are some adopted cousins and there are some by marriage relations that are hot hot hot. But the family line is more than just blood to me so I do not pursue or even fantasize about. Ok. Maybe I have fantasized once or twice. Especially when I was younger. But now I know there enough sexy women in the world for me to fantasize about without being so close to home.