stupid teen "groped" on plan..... - Page 2 - Rape Board

Sternenlied · 08-14-2006, 01:08 PM

I'm with virgin on this one.

First of all you can't seriously be blaming a 13 - repeat 13 - year-old girl for not reacting in what you think is the proper way.

We (including me) don't know anything about the background of this girl so not a single person here can judge her.

And pardon me for being a sexist on this one, but I don't think guys have the right to judge a girl's reaction in a situation like this at all.

08-14-2006, 01:20 PM

yes-guys, YOU have a man touch you. until you know how it feels to be held down, until you know how it feels to feel your pants become undone, and until you feel a hand go down your underwear and you see them SMILING as they try to rape you, you can just shut the fuck up.
because all of you that say shes lying or whatever because she didnt scream-youre all sad, pathetic people.

woody2 · 08-14-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by persiangurl

heres the post to the story, includes picture of the girl

http://www.insideedition.com/ourstor...px?storyid=192

Crazy..

queen · 08-20-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by virginfantasy

that hit a sensitive spot because when i was molested, i couldnt do shit. you DO freeze, it happens. couldnt do much, i just laid there while he pinned me down and i was so shocked i couldnt talk, let alone scream.
i understand what she went through. you have no idea until it happens to you, ok?

yes, but propably he first started to touch her clothes or something - I don't believe she couldn't react -especially in a plane with dozens of other passengers!!!

Sodoman · 08-20-2006, 11:06 PM

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And pardon me for being a sexist on this one, but I don't think guys have the right to judge a girl's reaction in a situation like this at all.

For the most part Stern I would agree with you except when the man/boy has been a victim of sexual abuse himself. As I was.

Sternenlied · 08-21-2006, 05:24 AM

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As I was.

In that case I apologise.
But I think there's still a big difference. I can't speak for every girl of course, but we are raised to be careful of strangers, especially men. Parents tell their girls to keep away from men we don't know, sometimes even to be afraid of men, because they might be bad.
So I can imagine a girl just being too afraid of a stranger to react in a way we think is only logical. Furthermore we don't know if this guy might have said anything to intimidate the girl.

Sodoman · 08-21-2006, 05:48 AM

Stern, you don't need to apologize, you didn't say anything that offended or bothered me, in fact, I agree with you. I was just making a point about guys not knowing how girls feel after being molested or raped. There are always exceptions to the rule. Now having said that I don't think all guys fully understand how girls are raised unless you are a parent of a girl. I'm not a parent but I have 3 neices, 1 lives pretty far away so I don't see her too often but the other two are my brothers kids and I see them quite a bit. Though it's not the same as being their parent, they're still the closest thing that I have to children and if anybody tried to or did hurt them they would bring down the wrath of hell upon themselves. Oh yeah they teach the girls to be aware of strangers but that doesn't mean that someone can't outsmart a child even though my 6 year old neice is sly as a fox. My other neice is just going to be 2 in a couple of months so she doesn't have to worry just yet My sister-in-law is very protective of those kids and so is my brother.

08-21-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by marianbuz

yes, but propably he first started to touch her clothes or something - I don't believe she couldn't react -especially in a plane with dozens of other passengers!!!

it happened to me in a park full of kids and their parents, and i know i couldnt react at all. its just the shock of "whats happening to me?", it blocks all of your senses. you really dont know how youd react until it haoppens to you, i used to say id scream and stuff if it happened to me.
plus, the fear of some guy doing that to you, you dont know how he'll react if you DO shout for help.

payoung47 · 08-25-2006, 09:04 PM

When I was 13 some jackass tried to rape me, but I was able to fight him off (stabbed a 4" buck knife into his ugly head. Killed his ass of course. Judge threw it out of court, self-defense).

I have no doubt what so ever that she went into shock and didn't know what to do. And the cabin crew really couldn't do much more than send him back to his seat. I mean, it's kind of hard to call the cops at 30,000 ft, and airliners don't normally have detention cells. HOWEVER, the flight crew could and should have called ahead. The tower would at the very least had Airport Security waiting at the gate.

I don't blame "April's" mother for wanting to sue United. They most definately dropped the ball.

MKP4 · 08-26-2006, 12:26 AM

You can easily freeze.

Consider this - Has anyone ever catch you off guard and verbally messed with you. Afterward you think to yourself - I should have said THIS .. or I should have rebutted THAT.

But you didn't.

She's 13 - you can't blame her on this one.

08-21-2006, 05:48 AM	#27
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	Stern, you don't need to apologize, you didn't say anything that offended or bothered me, in fact, I agree with you. I was just making a point about guys not knowing how girls feel after being molested or raped. There are always exceptions to the rule. Now having said that I don't think all guys fully understand how girls are raised unless you are a parent of a girl. I'm not a parent but I have 3 neices, 1 lives pretty far away so I don't see her too often but the other two are my brothers kids and I see them quite a bit. Though it's not the same as being their parent, they're still the closest thing that I have to children and if anybody tried to or did hurt them they would bring down the wrath of hell upon themselves. Oh yeah they teach the girls to be aware of strangers but that doesn't mean that someone can't outsmart a child even though my 6 year old neice is sly as a fox. My other neice is just going to be 2 in a couple of months so she doesn't have to worry just yet My sister-in-law is very protective of those kids and so is my brother. __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck." Last edited by Sodoman; 08-21-2006 at 05:56 AM.

08-14-2006, 01:08 PM	#21
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	I'm with virgin on this one. First of all you can't seriously be blaming a 13 - repeat 13 - year-old girl for not reacting in what you think is the proper way. We (including me) don't know anything about the background of this girl so not a single person here can judge her. And pardon me for being a sexist on this one, but I don't think guys have the right to judge a girl's reaction in a situation like this at all.

08-14-2006, 01:20 PM	#22
virginfantasy Guest Posts: n/a	yes-guys, YOU have a man touch you. until you know how it feels to be held down, until you know how it feels to feel your pants become undone, and until you feel a hand go down your underwear and you see them SMILING as they try to rape you, you can just shut the fuck up. because all of you that say shes lying or whatever because she didnt scream-youre all sad, pathetic people.

08-25-2006, 09:04 PM	#29
payoung47 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1 Reputation: 10	When I was 13 some jackass tried to rape me, but I was able to fight him off (stabbed a 4" buck knife into his ugly head. Killed his ass of course. Judge threw it out of court, self-defense). I have no doubt what so ever that she went into shock and didn't know what to do. And the cabin crew really couldn't do much more than send him back to his seat. I mean, it's kind of hard to call the cops at 30,000 ft, and airliners don't normally have detention cells. HOWEVER, the flight crew could and should have called ahead. The tower would at the very least had Airport Security waiting at the gate. I don't blame "April's" mother for wanting to sue United. They most definately dropped the ball.

08-26-2006, 12:26 AM	#30
MKP4 Privileged Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 207 Reputation: 51	You can easily freeze. Consider this - Has anyone ever catch you off guard and verbally messed with you. Afterward you think to yourself - I should have said THIS .. or I should have rebutted THAT. But you didn't. She's 13 - you can't blame her on this one.