age issue? - Rape Board

08-13-2006, 06:28 PM

As i like starting fires on this board...

Who else here does not like the below:

min age for movies/pics etc on main boards....18 years.
min age for story board.....14 years
if you wish to roleplay an underage person this is acceptable...if it is stated that is what you are doing, so all players can be aware of the situation. it would make our lives easier as moderators if you were willing to also state that you are of legal age! so we dont have to pm anyone we dont know to double check!

Should this not be 16, most European countries and UK have the age of consent at this age.

If i was to take about raping a teenage 14 year old girl in a general thread then i would get abuse from members so why are we allowed to post stories with under age victims?

To me using my mind and imagination while reading a story is just as powerful as seeing a movie or pics.

Some may see this board as a outlet for there fantasies but we could also be influencing this un-healthy subject as there are a lot of new young members just exploring the realms of there dark fantasies for the first time and we could be nurturing this desire/fantasy or planting the seed in the first place.

innocent · 08-13-2006, 06:48 PM

i posted this reply on the story setion in reply to a story about a 15year old.
i hope the original poster does not take offense as this is not aimed at him. its is my PERSONAL BELIEF and in no way reflects that of the board. instead it reflects my state of unhappiness at the current regulations on the board. however after recent discusions i have been told ithere is no leeway to change this matter currently.

quote;

this is an issue currently ongoing. min age for this section is 14 years old.
on a personal level i find this repulsive. i've been advised tho as a mod there is nothing i can do about this. i am glad to see that my point of view is not the only one. at least i know this is not just me being over the top.
clan i thank you for your support in this area.
koda...i'll say again this is nothing against you. this is an issue which is my personal belief. you are within the boards regulations in posting this.

on an entirely personal level (not in any way as a mod) i must now consider carefully how i feel about this issue i am a mother. how would i feel if it was my child someone was posting about....even in fantasy. this will take some thought.
__________________
end quote.

the following part of this post i've thought long and hard about.
apologies if have offended ANYONE. but anyone who has taken the time to get to know me....you know i must stand up for what i believe in. and if its photos or movies or stories....if its underage its WRONG!
even written word can encourage fantasy to become a reality...and do we want to be a part of that? i dont. do you as posters wish to be part of that?
grm and somedude. my apologies. if you wish to remove my mebership of this board as a result of the way i feel about this issue.... i understand. i just hope you have the decency not to delete this post. as i have already stated its puerly personal opinion and not a reflection of this boards rules. considering how strongly i feel about this issue...it may be for the best if you do so. its not an issue i will drop.
thanks to everyone who has taken the time to talk to me...just in case i dont get another chance to say so.

kodavictimm · 08-13-2006, 06:48 PM

I don't know about the UK since I don't live there, but as a writer I followed with great interest a few years back when our Supreme Court ruled that the written word and artist renderings were protected under free speech and writers and artist could not be charged with child porn for writing or drawing pictures that depict such things.

However actual photo's that depicted or used underage persons was indeed illegal and could not be published, viewed or owned.

That is why sometimes my stories will involve underage girls. I believe that a real rapist would not be concerned with if his victim was over or under a certain age. If and I stress the word IF I was an actual rapist I would have no problem with age. That would be way down on the criteria list. In fact there are distinct advantages to targeting the young and I capitalize on those in story form. There are disadvantages too and I like wise try to explore those too. Fiction is only good fiction if it mirrors possibility.

I should also say that I do and always have felt that the ability to read stories or in my case write them is a great method of release for those who might otherwise find the need to consider illegal means of satisfaction. I'm not saying that if I can't write I'm going to become a rapist. I don't know that I wouldn't but I don't have to becasue I have a woman who will roleplay with me when I want or need anyway.

That said I will try to abide by the rules of this site. In fact I posted a story with a underage victim before I knew there was a rule, but when and if the mods delete it I understand. I only sometimes write those and not too often at that.

08-13-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kodavictimm

I don't know about the UK since I don't live there, but as a writer I followed with great interest a few years back when our Supreme Court ruled that the written word and artist renderings were protected under free speech and writers and artist could not be charged with child porn for writing or drawing pictures that depict such things.

Interesting rule in the US, thought as a international board for members from different countries we need to decide on the board rules as a collective community.

Apart from where the board is hosted(Europe) we are sort of in international cyber space waters and therefore rules should be in place, taking a template of morals and current laws of countries.

innocent · 08-13-2006, 06:57 PM

there are regulations already in place. as posted in site info. these are as agreed by admin and other mods.

08-13-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innocent

on an entirely personal level (not in any way as a mod) i must now consider carefully how i feel about this issue i am a mother. how would i feel if it was my child someone was posting about....even in fantasy. this will take some thought.
__________________
end quote.

the following part of this post i've thought long and hard about.
apologies if have offended ANYONE. but anyone who has taken the time to get to know me....you know i must stand up for what i believe in. and if its photos or movies or stories....if its underage its WRONG!
even written word can encourage fantasy to become a reality...and do we want to be a part of that? i dont. do you as posters wish to be part of that?
grm and somedude. my apologies. if you wish to remove my mebership of this board as a result of the way i feel about this issue.... i understand. i just hope you have the decency not to delete this post. as i have already stated its puerly personal opinion and not a reflection of this boards rules. considering how strongly i feel about this issue...it may be for the best if you do so. its not an issue i will drop.
thanks to everyone who has taken the time to talk to me...just in case i dont get another chance to say so.

I too feel too deep about this subject, i do not support anything underage, hopefully it can be resolved to be honest if this board is going to support underage rape stories then i will not be able to continue to support the board.

innocent · 08-13-2006, 07:05 PM

i truly hope it could be dealt with. cannot see it tho. i'e been informed this is why the last female mod left the board so why would things change now?

08-13-2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innocent

i truly hope it could be dealt with. cannot see it tho. i'e been informed this is why the last female mod left the board so why would things change now?

Did not know there was a female mod, must have been before my time, who was this?

innocent · 08-13-2006, 07:13 PM

you'll have to ask someone who was here before me. thats all i know.

kodavictimm · 08-13-2006, 07:22 PM

You know what, let me solve this. I'll delete the stories and just not post any more that involve anything offensive. My goal was to share with this fine group a variety of settings and ages. As I have stated previously, it is rare that I ever write anything underage because that is not my thing. I try to mix things up and get into the mind of my rapist characters and explain what they might think.

It is not so important for me to do this to cause this board to be splintered. It's not like I got paid to write these and it's not like i have so big an ego that I have to leave them.

Consider the issue muted I hope and I hope innocent will not step down and clan_hunter will not leave.

innocent · 08-13-2006, 07:27 PM

no hun this is NOT your fault. this is a issue i have with board reg and not you or your stories. please dont feel that way. another new memebr started the issue with commenst about 13 year olds and escaleted from there. i persoanlly beieve min age should be 16 and no less. but thats just me. dont you delete anything you believe in. we each have to stand up for what we believe in or whats the point.

truly i dont know how else i can say it....IT IS NO YOU OR YOUR POSTS!!!!

kodavictimm · 08-13-2006, 07:37 PM

innocent, if you'll excuse the joke but I want to feel totally innocent if you do step down or leave. Like I said the stories are just stories. Theyre not my personal journal and there not stuff I get paid for it's just a my way of entertaining my fellow rape fantasy friends. The stories are down.

Now I hope you don't quit and stick around.

innocent · 08-13-2006, 07:47 PM

honey if i had the choice i would stick around. i wont change my beliefs tho and dont think anyone here would expect that of me. as such i cant see how i would be allowed to remain either as mod or board member. i wouldnt let the issue lie and why should i? surely i cant be alone in being agianst this issue? for the sake of peace on the board maybe it would be better if i was to disappear. things certainly wouldnt be any fun for me so why would i even log in anymore? it has now escalated to a level beyond my ability to stand. if there was the slightest chance i could take on the problem and see an acceptable result i would. hell i'd settle for changing the regs to 16 even tho most other boards min regs are 18. 14 y/o is just to young for me to stay here with a clear conscience. i'm a mother and that is part of me i cant and wont change. all you people out there are fathers, uncles brothers, aunties and granfathers etc. surely you can see where i come from?
i WILL stand up for what i believe in...even if it makes no difference at all at least i know i'm true to what i believe in...and thats what counts at the end of the day. the ability to live with yourself. i have doubts as to any of these posts appearing on this board tomorrow but even if only one person reads and understands, thats enough.

Throatdagger · 08-13-2006, 09:15 PM

I have went to my old age account and withdrew two more cents so here they are.

As everyone is aware of I write custom stories. I get asked to write stories about girls under the age of 18. I have established 18 as my rule because since I post on multiple boards it makes life easier. I understand people wanting younger ages, but if they feel that strongly they can either have someone else write the story or use a word processor to change the age on THEIR copy.

I don't have a problem with changing the rule to a higher age. I don't think it is a big deal. Just avoid mentioning the age in a story and let the twisted minds wander. They will anyway.

Innocent has to make her own decision on staying or going. In my sincere opinion banning her would be an outrageous disservice to this board. it is ironic that on a board that strives on the principle of free speech that a personal opinion would jeopardise her status.

I'll be the first to admit that I don't understand how this board is governed. Who made the rules to start with and does any one has the authority to change them? I understand that rules can't change, nor should they, on a whim; but rules in society do change all the time. There should be an orderly method for discussing such issues.

Well that is my 2 cents worth.

gal4 · 08-13-2006, 09:57 PM

Lord, here we go again, the age issue. We lost one good member last january, and now we stand to lose another again. And it always happens on this board, you never hardly hear of it on other boards.

I believe there are infiltrators from other boards who consistently bring up the same issue here time and time again.

Concerning my personal life I had sex before, yeah, before the officially approved age here. But that don't make it right.

Heh, look at how I turned out. No, maybe sex had nothing to do with it, I was just born lame in the head.

When I was about 17 years old, it was a running joke, hey look everybody, look at me, look at how messed up my life is and I have sixty more to go, gimme a gun and I want to end it right now.

Blam, uh, didn't do that quite right, Blam, well, a little off center, Blam, yeah, that done it, good, now, I am dead.

(Voice) You sure?

Yeah, I am, I am dead.

(Devil) No, no, not yet, go back.

YYYARRGGGHHH!!! I'm back, whew, I'm back, damn, damn.

what?

Yeah, bad dream, bad dream, I thought I killed myself.

yeah, that was a bad dream, you are still living, and that is a nightmare,
now, look at the new gag and rope I bought to tie you up with,

ARRRGGGGGGGhhhh!!!.

Now, where was I, oh, yeah, the age issue.

Now, no joking aside, I got two kids, and I want as much as that is becoming harder and harder to obtain in this world, a normal upbringing.
At least I care about my kids life, unlike my folks, who had me because it was an obligation, after they had a number, that was it. Throw me in a nursery.

You talk about a bunch of sick pederasts in those places.
Yeah, look at me, I am the fine result. Want more? Put your kids in a nursery and I would guarrantee, they may turn out like me, even worse with one had not clapping loudly bout locked on the trigger of a .45 aimed between your damn eyes. Say hello to Jesus.

kodavictimm · 08-13-2006, 10:17 PM

Don't even bring Jesus in as a joke. I've seen more fucked up individuals in my life who grew up all protected from the evils of the world in church. that shit don't work unless you're gonna kill your kid when they turn 18 and send them to heaven yourself.

And I was a virgin until I got married at 19 and look at how I turned out. I actually got married so I could get laid because I was so unsure of my self. now I've been married four times and had another dozen of girls and know how good I am but didn't have it until I had had sex.

I also know that some people get hurt and fucked up by being raped. That is why this is a rape fantasy site and not a rape for real site. That is why we can and should be able to talk about stuff without getting all the mothers and some of the fathers mad because they might feel guilty because they like rape but don't want their kids raped.

Hell I got kids too and grandkids too and I'd kill the motherfucker that touched them. But I can still enjoy a rape fantasy. I can still lay there and remember the look of one of their friends and think of how easy it would be to take her. But that is why it's called fantasy because you don't do it.

And if the friends daddy looks at my girl and thinks that, well who has been hurt. I'd rather he thought it and whacked off that night than decided to do it.

But tell me this. did you know that since the advent of the internet that violent crimes against women are down. Down big time. I checked it out at the u s Government site to be sure. Starting in 1995 I think it was the rate just dropped and dropped and dropped.

Could it be that we all now have a way to talk and write about stuff that helps someone find a way to whack instead of rape?

All you mothers, think about raising your daughter 15 years ago. No internet. But there were still rapists. More of them in fact. There were more snuff films too because there was no internet to share faked ones. There were more sexual kidnappings because all those places that sell bondage and rape videos had no outlet.

I don't think we need to be trying to keep people from talking about what they fantasize about.

Personally I have removed my stories to help keep the people happy but it is only because I like to keep the peace. I have made it clear to all involved that I understand their point of view but do not share it.

Of course that makes me sould like I like young stories. I don't like them or dislike them anymore than any other rape story as long as it is fiction and well written and caters to my likes. Who the hell cares what happens to somebody that is not real?

Not me. That is for sure. I'm more concerned with the real people, like those people who share rape fantasies with me.

Sodoman · 08-13-2006, 10:37 PM

I also think it would be a disservice to the board if Innocent were to be removed or leave due to a stupid rule that can easily be changed. I say take a vote from the members and let them decide. If this board is truly for the members then they should decide some of the rules. I know there needs to be a certain amount of set rules for the overall protection of the board but this is not an issue that falls under that category, this is an issue that the members should be allowed to vote on since it's the members who post the stories. Other than the fact that you obviously can't go too young or it would be deemed as pedophilia material and that's unacceptable to me. I have two young neices and I'd kill anybody who ever messed with them. I really think Innocent should be allowed to remain as a mod, she's good at it, she polices the board as needed and has fun chatting with the members when she has time for that. Also cant' follow the logic on wanting to lose a long time member and solid poster like Clan Hunter. He's already stated that if the board continues to support underage stories that he will not support the board. If you lose these two you run the risk of losing others. Not exactly the way you want to build membership. Now would I have brought up the age issue, probably not as I don't read the stories. However if well respected, long time members are offended then I think their opinion should matter. OK my point is that in the interest of fairness to Innocent, Clan Hunter, and all of the members this issue should be voted on by the members.

Rogue · 08-13-2006, 10:45 PM

As mentioned above, this situation is dÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©jÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â* vu. Here's a post where the ex mod is quoted.

http://www.rapeboard.com/showpost.ph...9&postcount=10

I find myself agreeing with kodavictimm. I'll add that, what if the victim was one day away from her 16th birthday? That's the beauty of fantasy, it's the only place you can show that the mind can be far more developed than the age suggests, as is the case with many people in real life, without fear of judgement and numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by innocent

even written word can encourage fantasy to become a reality...and do we want to be a part of that? i dont

But can anyone here say that without contradicting themselves? We don't fear all our playful threats, roleplay, and stories will encourage real rape, but when the imaginary age is 2 years lower than you like, all of a sudden, it's dangerous?

Other than that Innocent I understand where you're coming from. If I had children I'd probably think the same. The admin is also part of the problem for never having a sticky with all the rules. Though if you had seen them we might never have met you, which would have been a crime in itself

Grm · 08-14-2006, 06:07 AM

OK guys, this thorny issue has raised its head again.
Here are the facts, this board's daily running is left up to the moderators, but decisions on rules are made by the board owner. For your interest he is Russian and the server is based in eastern Europe, not in the US or UK or Australia.
This subject always arouses great passions, what is the appropriate age limits for rape fantasy? I fall in the no censorship of fiction camp. Asstr, the greatest archive of sex stories on the internet beleives in the freedom of speech, as does the supreme court of America. I always find it strange that those who frequent a non-consent message board get so upset by the age of consent[ which as we know differs all around the world]. Fiction is fiction, if we beleive that fiction will turn someone to commit a terrible crime, be it against a 14 yearold or a 18 yearold, then it is too late for all of us. I happen to beleive the opposite, that by channeling our darkest desires to a place where no one can get hurt we may just prevent a real crime. Innocent and clan, you can only act as your conscience dictates, if you decide to leave you will both be sadly missed, I hold you both in the greatest respect.
Grm

Herb · 08-14-2006, 07:38 PM

Personally, I do not know what the problem is here.
This is a place where we can take our clothes off, let our hair down, and romp naked. Well, not exactly but so what? ARRgggh, don't beat me.

As of now, I am a mother, and anybody that has told you that kids can be pure, nice and angelic, is just blowing hot air. Kids are hell, selfish to the core, and blah, blah, blah, anybody that is a parent can see this already.
So, don't get it in your mind that kids are innocent, or dumb, because they are a lot smarter than you think. After all I was a kid once. Yeah, and I caused my folks hell, and I loved it.

But this does not excuse child rape. Oh, damn, know this is beginning to sound lame, but it is a fact. There are things which are plain wrong.
And such things like this should not be open to discussion.
Why, hey, if somebody killed your kid, would this be open to discussion?

No, my kid is not open to discussion. Now, how about some fictious kid. Some thing that has never existed. How would feel about raping something that has never existed? And if somebody writes a story about some non existant being raped by some non existant rapist, the work is pure fiction.
Now, would you go to the store and buy these if they were for sale?
Yeah, some of you would, not me, but some of you would.

Next, what if some group of people decided that you could not buy these works of fiction? What would you do? Would you argue with them?
Would you conclusively show that reading these works have no significant adverse influence on your day to day life and interaction with people?

Now, concerning my experience, I have read some pretty sick shit, and used to masturbate to them. Yes, they let me explore my masochistic feelings, and sometimes I wish I was the victim depicted in the work.
I got them because they were readily available. Were they not availabe, would have made no difference, I probably would have wrote some myself adn beat off to it.

But it all comes to a matter of choice. I don't like Scat and I don't like Bestiality, or Snuff, or Necrophilia. But some do, OK, go ahead, read them.
They may not like what I like, Masochism.

I don't know, personally, I felt like MzMadnezz, and similarly Innocent were a little over reacting. Oh, yes, I support their decision. But that is precisely the point, they are free to make the decision. It is their choice.

But before I get on the "freedom" bandwagon, remember this.

Like the Existentialist philosopher Sartre said, man is condemned to freedom.
And freedom does bring responsibilities. You get nothing for free.
You choice. Once you have freedom, you own free will, there will be no God, no Devil, no heaven nor hell for you to lay your blame on.
Yeah, you are free, and you are condemned.

"It is because you are free, that is why you are lost" -- Kafka.

This is Herb's first and only post. I am outta here.

08-13-2006, 06:28 PM	#1
clan_hunter Guest Posts: n/a	age issue? As i like starting fires on this board... Who else here does not like the below: min age for movies/pics etc on main boards....18 years. min age for story board.....14 years if you wish to roleplay an underage person this is acceptable...if it is stated that is what you are doing, so all players can be aware of the situation. it would make our lives easier as moderators if you were willing to also state that you are of legal age! so we dont have to pm anyone we dont know to double check! Should this not be 16, most European countries and UK have the age of consent at this age. If i was to take about raping a teenage 14 year old girl in a general thread then i would get abuse from members so why are we allowed to post stories with under age victims? To me using my mind and imagination while reading a story is just as powerful as seeing a movie or pics. Some may see this board as a outlet for there fantasies but we could also be influencing this un-healthy subject as there are a lot of new young members just exploring the realms of there dark fantasies for the first time and we could be nurturing this desire/fantasy or planting the seed in the first place. Last edited by clan_hunter; 08-13-2006 at 06:39 PM.

08-13-2006, 10:37 PM	#17
Sodoman Backdoor Bandit Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,144 Reputation: 28425	I also think it would be a disservice to the board if Innocent were to be removed or leave due to a stupid rule that can easily be changed. I say take a vote from the members and let them decide. If this board is truly for the members then they should decide some of the rules. I know there needs to be a certain amount of set rules for the overall protection of the board but this is not an issue that falls under that category, this is an issue that the members should be allowed to vote on since it's the members who post the stories. Other than the fact that you obviously can't go too young or it would be deemed as pedophilia material and that's unacceptable to me. I have two young neices and I'd kill anybody who ever messed with them. I really think Innocent should be allowed to remain as a mod, she's good at it, she polices the board as needed and has fun chatting with the members when she has time for that. Also cant' follow the logic on wanting to lose a long time member and solid poster like Clan Hunter. He's already stated that if the board continues to support underage stories that he will not support the board. If you lose these two you run the risk of losing others. Not exactly the way you want to build membership. Now would I have brought up the age issue, probably not as I don't read the stories. However if well respected, long time members are offended then I think their opinion should matter. OK my point is that in the interest of fairness to Innocent, Clan Hunter, and all of the members this issue should be voted on by the members. __________________ "The mind is a beautiful thing to fuck."

08-13-2006, 06:48 PM	#2
innocent Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk Posts: 2,110 Reputation: 9976	i posted this reply on the story setion in reply to a story about a 15year old. i hope the original poster does not take offense as this is not aimed at him. its is my PERSONAL BELIEF and in no way reflects that of the board. instead it reflects my state of unhappiness at the current regulations on the board. however after recent discusions i have been told ithere is no leeway to change this matter currently. quote; this is an issue currently ongoing. min age for this section is 14 years old. on a personal level i find this repulsive. i've been advised tho as a mod there is nothing i can do about this. i am glad to see that my point of view is not the only one. at least i know this is not just me being over the top. clan i thank you for your support in this area. koda...i'll say again this is nothing against you. this is an issue which is my personal belief. you are within the boards regulations in posting this. on an entirely personal level (not in any way as a mod) i must now consider carefully how i feel about this issue i am a mother. how would i feel if it was my child someone was posting about....even in fantasy. this will take some thought. __________________ end quote. the following part of this post i've thought long and hard about. apologies if have offended ANYONE. but anyone who has taken the time to get to know me....you know i must stand up for what i believe in. and if its photos or movies or stories....if its underage its WRONG! even written word can encourage fantasy to become a reality...and do we want to be a part of that? i dont. do you as posters wish to be part of that? grm and somedude. my apologies. if you wish to remove my mebership of this board as a result of the way i feel about this issue.... i understand. i just hope you have the decency not to delete this post. as i have already stated its puerly personal opinion and not a reflection of this boards rules. considering how strongly i feel about this issue...it may be for the best if you do so. its not an issue i will drop. thanks to everyone who has taken the time to talk to me...just in case i dont get another chance to say so.

08-13-2006, 06:48 PM	#3
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	I don't know about the UK since I don't live there, but as a writer I followed with great interest a few years back when our Supreme Court ruled that the written word and artist renderings were protected under free speech and writers and artist could not be charged with child porn for writing or drawing pictures that depict such things. However actual photo's that depicted or used underage persons was indeed illegal and could not be published, viewed or owned. That is why sometimes my stories will involve underage girls. I believe that a real rapist would not be concerned with if his victim was over or under a certain age. If and I stress the word IF I was an actual rapist I would have no problem with age. That would be way down on the criteria list. In fact there are distinct advantages to targeting the young and I capitalize on those in story form. There are disadvantages too and I like wise try to explore those too. Fiction is only good fiction if it mirrors possibility. I should also say that I do and always have felt that the ability to read stories or in my case write them is a great method of release for those who might otherwise find the need to consider illegal means of satisfaction. I'm not saying that if I can't write I'm going to become a rapist. I don't know that I wouldn't but I don't have to becasue I have a woman who will roleplay with me when I want or need anyway. That said I will try to abide by the rules of this site. In fact I posted a story with a underage victim before I knew there was a rule, but when and if the mods delete it I understand. I only sometimes write those and not too often at that.

08-13-2006, 06:57 PM	#5
innocent Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk Posts: 2,110 Reputation: 9976	there are regulations already in place. as posted in site info. these are as agreed by admin and other mods.

08-13-2006, 07:05 PM	#7
innocent Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk Posts: 2,110 Reputation: 9976	i truly hope it could be dealt with. cannot see it tho. i'e been informed this is why the last female mod left the board so why would things change now?

08-13-2006, 07:13 PM	#9
innocent Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk Posts: 2,110 Reputation: 9976	you'll have to ask someone who was here before me. thats all i know.

08-13-2006, 07:22 PM	#10
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	You know what, let me solve this. I'll delete the stories and just not post any more that involve anything offensive. My goal was to share with this fine group a variety of settings and ages. As I have stated previously, it is rare that I ever write anything underage because that is not my thing. I try to mix things up and get into the mind of my rapist characters and explain what they might think. It is not so important for me to do this to cause this board to be splintered. It's not like I got paid to write these and it's not like i have so big an ego that I have to leave them. Consider the issue muted I hope and I hope innocent will not step down and clan_hunter will not leave.

08-13-2006, 07:27 PM	#11
innocent Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk Posts: 2,110 Reputation: 9976	no hun this is NOT your fault. this is a issue i have with board reg and not you or your stories. please dont feel that way. another new memebr started the issue with commenst about 13 year olds and escaleted from there. i persoanlly beieve min age should be 16 and no less. but thats just me. dont you delete anything you believe in. we each have to stand up for what we believe in or whats the point. truly i dont know how else i can say it....IT IS NO YOU OR YOUR POSTS!!!!

08-13-2006, 07:37 PM	#12
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	innocent, if you'll excuse the joke but I want to feel totally innocent if you do step down or leave. Like I said the stories are just stories. Theyre not my personal journal and there not stuff I get paid for it's just a my way of entertaining my fellow rape fantasy friends. The stories are down. Now I hope you don't quit and stick around.

08-13-2006, 07:47 PM	#13
innocent Privileged Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk Posts: 2,110 Reputation: 9976	honey if i had the choice i would stick around. i wont change my beliefs tho and dont think anyone here would expect that of me. as such i cant see how i would be allowed to remain either as mod or board member. i wouldnt let the issue lie and why should i? surely i cant be alone in being agianst this issue? for the sake of peace on the board maybe it would be better if i was to disappear. things certainly wouldnt be any fun for me so why would i even log in anymore? it has now escalated to a level beyond my ability to stand. if there was the slightest chance i could take on the problem and see an acceptable result i would. hell i'd settle for changing the regs to 16 even tho most other boards min regs are 18. 14 y/o is just to young for me to stay here with a clear conscience. i'm a mother and that is part of me i cant and wont change. all you people out there are fathers, uncles brothers, aunties and granfathers etc. surely you can see where i come from? i WILL stand up for what i believe in...even if it makes no difference at all at least i know i'm true to what i believe in...and thats what counts at the end of the day. the ability to live with yourself. i have doubts as to any of these posts appearing on this board tomorrow but even if only one person reads and understands, thats enough.

08-13-2006, 09:15 PM	#14
Throatdagger Certified Boob Inspector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mid Atlantic Posts: 2,069 Reputation: 9789	I have went to my old age account and withdrew two more cents so here they are. As everyone is aware of I write custom stories. I get asked to write stories about girls under the age of 18. I have established 18 as my rule because since I post on multiple boards it makes life easier. I understand people wanting younger ages, but if they feel that strongly they can either have someone else write the story or use a word processor to change the age on THEIR copy. I don't have a problem with changing the rule to a higher age. I don't think it is a big deal. Just avoid mentioning the age in a story and let the twisted minds wander. They will anyway. Innocent has to make her own decision on staying or going. In my sincere opinion banning her would be an outrageous disservice to this board. it is ironic that on a board that strives on the principle of free speech that a personal opinion would jeopardise her status. I'll be the first to admit that I don't understand how this board is governed. Who made the rules to start with and does any one has the authority to change them? I understand that rules can't change, nor should they, on a whim; but rules in society do change all the time. There should be an orderly method for discussing such issues. Well that is my 2 cents worth.

08-13-2006, 09:57 PM	#15
gal4 UnWanted Trick Baby Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 834 Reputation: 584	Lord, here we go again, the age issue. We lost one good member last january, and now we stand to lose another again. And it always happens on this board, you never hardly hear of it on other boards. I believe there are infiltrators from other boards who consistently bring up the same issue here time and time again. Concerning my personal life I had sex before, yeah, before the officially approved age here. But that don't make it right. Heh, look at how I turned out. No, maybe sex had nothing to do with it, I was just born lame in the head. When I was about 17 years old, it was a running joke, hey look everybody, look at me, look at how messed up my life is and I have sixty more to go, gimme a gun and I want to end it right now. Blam, uh, didn't do that quite right, Blam, well, a little off center, Blam, yeah, that done it, good, now, I am dead. (Voice) You sure? Yeah, I am, I am dead. (Devil) No, no, not yet, go back. YYYARRGGGHHH!!! I'm back, whew, I'm back, damn, damn. what? Yeah, bad dream, bad dream, I thought I killed myself. yeah, that was a bad dream, you are still living, and that is a nightmare, now, look at the new gag and rope I bought to tie you up with, ARRRGGGGGGGhhhh!!!. Now, where was I, oh, yeah, the age issue. Now, no joking aside, I got two kids, and I want as much as that is becoming harder and harder to obtain in this world, a normal upbringing. At least I care about my kids life, unlike my folks, who had me because it was an obligation, after they had a number, that was it. Throw me in a nursery. You talk about a bunch of sick pederasts in those places. Yeah, look at me, I am the fine result. Want more? Put your kids in a nursery and I would guarrantee, they may turn out like me, even worse with one had not clapping loudly bout locked on the trigger of a .45 aimed between your damn eyes. Say hello to Jesus.

08-13-2006, 10:17 PM	#16
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	Don't even bring Jesus in as a joke. I've seen more fucked up individuals in my life who grew up all protected from the evils of the world in church. that shit don't work unless you're gonna kill your kid when they turn 18 and send them to heaven yourself. And I was a virgin until I got married at 19 and look at how I turned out. I actually got married so I could get laid because I was so unsure of my self. now I've been married four times and had another dozen of girls and know how good I am but didn't have it until I had had sex. I also know that some people get hurt and fucked up by being raped. That is why this is a rape fantasy site and not a rape for real site. That is why we can and should be able to talk about stuff without getting all the mothers and some of the fathers mad because they might feel guilty because they like rape but don't want their kids raped. Hell I got kids too and grandkids too and I'd kill the motherfucker that touched them. But I can still enjoy a rape fantasy. I can still lay there and remember the look of one of their friends and think of how easy it would be to take her. But that is why it's called fantasy because you don't do it. And if the friends daddy looks at my girl and thinks that, well who has been hurt. I'd rather he thought it and whacked off that night than decided to do it. But tell me this. did you know that since the advent of the internet that violent crimes against women are down. Down big time. I checked it out at the u s Government site to be sure. Starting in 1995 I think it was the rate just dropped and dropped and dropped. Could it be that we all now have a way to talk and write about stuff that helps someone find a way to whack instead of rape? All you mothers, think about raising your daughter 15 years ago. No internet. But there were still rapists. More of them in fact. There were more snuff films too because there was no internet to share faked ones. There were more sexual kidnappings because all those places that sell bondage and rape videos had no outlet. I don't think we need to be trying to keep people from talking about what they fantasize about. Personally I have removed my stories to help keep the people happy but it is only because I like to keep the peace. I have made it clear to all involved that I understand their point of view but do not share it. Of course that makes me sould like I like young stories. I don't like them or dislike them anymore than any other rape story as long as it is fiction and well written and caters to my likes. Who the hell cares what happens to somebody that is not real? Not me. That is for sure. I'm more concerned with the real people, like those people who share rape fantasies with me.

08-14-2006, 06:07 AM	#19
Grm Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Black Country Posts: 956 Reputation: 1332	OK guys, this thorny issue has raised its head again. Here are the facts, this board's daily running is left up to the moderators, but decisions on rules are made by the board owner. For your interest he is Russian and the server is based in eastern Europe, not in the US or UK or Australia. This subject always arouses great passions, what is the appropriate age limits for rape fantasy? I fall in the no censorship of fiction camp. Asstr, the greatest archive of sex stories on the internet beleives in the freedom of speech, as does the supreme court of America. I always find it strange that those who frequent a non-consent message board get so upset by the age of consent[ which as we know differs all around the world]. Fiction is fiction, if we beleive that fiction will turn someone to commit a terrible crime, be it against a 14 yearold or a 18 yearold, then it is too late for all of us. I happen to beleive the opposite, that by channeling our darkest desires to a place where no one can get hurt we may just prevent a real crime. Innocent and clan, you can only act as your conscience dictates, if you decide to leave you will both be sadly missed, I hold you both in the greatest respect. Grm

08-14-2006, 07:38 PM	#20
Herb Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1 Reputation: 10	Personally, I do not know what the problem is here. This is a place where we can take our clothes off, let our hair down, and romp naked. Well, not exactly but so what? ARRgggh, don't beat me. As of now, I am a mother, and anybody that has told you that kids can be pure, nice and angelic, is just blowing hot air. Kids are hell, selfish to the core, and blah, blah, blah, anybody that is a parent can see this already. So, don't get it in your mind that kids are innocent, or dumb, because they are a lot smarter than you think. After all I was a kid once. Yeah, and I caused my folks hell, and I loved it. But this does not excuse child rape. Oh, damn, know this is beginning to sound lame, but it is a fact. There are things which are plain wrong. And such things like this should not be open to discussion. Why, hey, if somebody killed your kid, would this be open to discussion? No, my kid is not open to discussion. Now, how about some fictious kid. Some thing that has never existed. How would feel about raping something that has never existed? And if somebody writes a story about some non existant being raped by some non existant rapist, the work is pure fiction. Now, would you go to the store and buy these if they were for sale? Yeah, some of you would, not me, but some of you would. Next, what if some group of people decided that you could not buy these works of fiction? What would you do? Would you argue with them? Would you conclusively show that reading these works have no significant adverse influence on your day to day life and interaction with people? Now, concerning my experience, I have read some pretty sick shit, and used to masturbate to them. Yes, they let me explore my masochistic feelings, and sometimes I wish I was the victim depicted in the work. I got them because they were readily available. Were they not availabe, would have made no difference, I probably would have wrote some myself adn beat off to it. But it all comes to a matter of choice. I don't like Scat and I don't like Bestiality, or Snuff, or Necrophilia. But some do, OK, go ahead, read them. They may not like what I like, Masochism. I don't know, personally, I felt like MzMadnezz, and similarly Innocent were a little over reacting. Oh, yes, I support their decision. But that is precisely the point, they are free to make the decision. It is their choice. But before I get on the "freedom" bandwagon, remember this. Like the Existentialist philosopher Sartre said, man is condemned to freedom. And freedom does bring responsibilities. You get nothing for free. You choice. Once you have freedom, you own free will, there will be no God, no Devil, no heaven nor hell for you to lay your blame on. Yeah, you are free, and you are condemned. "It is because you are free, that is why you are lost" -- Kafka. This is Herb's first and only post. I am outta here.