Is it rape if you agreed to have sex even if you don't want to?

[finman]

Originally Posted by perfectlyformed

In the UK a woman can say "I was drunk" a day or two after the event and then claim rape.

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Good thing I like my victims...I mean dates...perfectly sober so they feel everything coming to them hehe

But especially with that being the case in the UK, that's more reason I'd spend all my time with you, my dear

[RoxieCarol]

Just assume that anything but a very emphatic, sober yes is rape.

[pervipete]

Originally Posted by The_Scotsman

There's no such thing as British Law either. There's Scottish Law, Nrth Irish Law and English Law..........All totally different legal entities with different laws.

True enough, but that's only cause they're awkward buggers...

Ok, English law, voted for by people who don't need to live under them, says that there is no such thing as consensual non-consent...

[NternalStruggles]

Originally Posted by RoxieCarol

Just assume that anything but a very emphatic, sober yes is rape.

What if you get a very emphatic, sober yes *to* rape?

Is it still rape? If yes, can it be prosecuted successfully?

[phtlc]

Originally Posted by shyshadow

Hi! I know this might be contradictory but is it rape if you are willing to do it but would rather not?

I think where the line is drawn, presuming the person is old enough to give consent and not in an impaired state is what was communicated. If you say no and the person continues it is rape. If you would rather not do it, but respond positively to the other persons advances it is not rape.

[phtlc]

Originally Posted by luvnlust

From my experience, I've found alcohol is good for loosening inhibitions and permits your innermost desires to come out; but no matter how drunk I've been, I've never been inclined to do something I'm completely repulsed at. Therefore what I've done under the influence was always my decision, even if the booze made the decision a little bit easier; hence the reason for most DUI laws - you have to be held responsible for what you do behind the wheel. So then how can a woman in the UK claim rape, under the influence, especially if she could be conscious of what's going on? Now if drunkenness led to unconsciousness, the inability to stop the rape entirely, or she was clearly saying 'No', I can then see a case.

That's my take on it. Most women I met in bars who consented to go home with had a few drinks before leaving with me. Of course if a girl was staggering drunk, not walking straight and not speaking coherently I would not proceed to leave with her or have sex. To be frank I would actually be turned off by her in that case anyway.

[pervipete]

Originally Posted by phtlc

I think where the line is drawn, presuming the person is old enough to give consent and not in an impaired state is what was communicated. If you say no and the person continues it is rape. If you would rather not do it, but respond positively to the other persons advances it is not rape.

I think this will always be a grey area, for example, even though no overt threats have been made, but the woman feels too intimidated to say no, if for instance, the guy has a rep for violence and just has that way of acting. And we all know blokes like him.