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Old 08-30-2010, 12:43 PM   #41
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So a Repulican...or in Brit terms the opposition party...says his the worse president ever, lets be honest here, he hardly going to say anything different...

Jwhan, that also means the between 51 to 56 either approve or at least have not got an opinion either way... And I wonder how many where people who voted for McClain anyway...
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:59 PM   #42
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I'm conservative on some issues, liberal on others, I voted for Bush the first time around and John Kerry the second time around. I would have voted for Hilary Clinton, she certainly has more experience, hell even Bill Clinton said Obama has literal no experience as did Joe Bidden during the campaign. I didn't much care for McCain either but I did vote for him.

I guess I found it hard to vote for a man that said during a campaign stop that he had been to all 57 states with one left to go, his association with Bill Ayers, close or not is certainly questionable, and his Preacher of 20-years Jeremiah "God Damn America" Wright, speaks for it's self. I could go on but I think we have all heard it before, and I didn't say he was the worst President ever, I said he was the worst in a long time, there is a difference.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:14 PM   #43
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So a Repulican...or in Brit terms the opposition party...says his the worse president ever, lets be honest here, he hardly going to say anything different...

Jwhan, that also means the between 51 to 56 either approve or at least have not got an opinion either way... And I wonder how many where people who voted for McClain anyway...
You're absolutely right Pervi. Party lines are all that determine these perspectives. Republicans are far more ideological though. The mere fact Obama is a Democrat is enough to throw them into a frothing rage. Nothing he does or could do would matter at all. Same with Clinton. Shrub, could apparently do no wrong. Make an ass of himself and America whenever he opened his stupid mouth and stuck his foot in it. Started 2 wars that are costing us bilions, not a problem, hey he was a devout christian who wore his religion on his sleeve, good enough for me! Say the right wingers!
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:19 AM   #44
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Many of America's Founding Fathers hated the thought of political parties. They were sure quarreling factions would be more interested in contending with each other than in working for the common good. They wanted citizens to vote for candidates without the interference of organized groups, but this was not to be. Independents like myself do not vote straight party lines for we realize the party system in America is a joke, for an American to say that he or she is a member of the Democratic or Republican party, is quite different from a Briton's stating that he or she is a member of the Conservative or Labour party. In the United States, one can often become a "member" of a party, merely by stating that fact. In some U.S. states, a voter can register as a member of one party and vote in the primary election for the other party.

I personal don't care what political party the President belongs to or what God he believes in, be it, Jesus, Isis, Thor, Allah or the Easter Bunny, I don't care about his opinion on abortion or any thing else that he has no power to change, I am interested in his opinions on the powers he has, such as, preparing the Budget of the United States, although the Congress must approve it, his being the General manager of financial Affairs, his powers of appointment and Military powers etc. Americans who vote straight party lines generally do so because of opinions the President has on issues he has no power to change, or they vote the way their Daddy did and his Daddy before him
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Wow?? People still on this? jwham good point you have there!

Who cares what he is...so lets just care about the job he is doing currently. Sure there are enough screw ups there to make a few more threads about huh?!

Next we will be worrying if the Pope is Catholic or not Long as he is not behind any altar boys hes doing okay!

So lets worry about peoples actions more than "Who" they are, okay?!
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Next we will be worrying if the Pope is Catholic or not Long as he is not behind any altar boys hes doing okay!
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So lets worry about peoples actions more than "Who" they are, okay?!
I agree and as always, you are the intelligent voice of reason Sindyloo.
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He is or he isn't. As long as he does what he's supposed to do I don't give a shit.

Course no president or politician for that matter will ever do what they are supposed to. But that is because they lie and aren't afraid to get dirty, not because of their religion, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, etc.
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Same with Clinton. Shrub, could apparently do no wrong. Make an ass of himself and America whenever he opened his stupid mouth and stuck his foot in it. Started 2 wars that are costing us bilions, not a problem, hey he was a devout christian who wore his religion on his sleeve, good enough for me! Say the right wingers!
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Believe it or not, I've just read a report in the weekend papers about a survey held in the USA (Sorry if it seems like 'pick on USA' week) that states that nearly 24% of Americans believe that Obama is a Muslim.

Surely not! Has anyone else read this report and does anyone believe it? I find it hard to swallow. I don't think the average American is that stupid.
OMG!! We got stupid here just like anywhere else. I hope they had real news in there too.
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If I'm not mistaken, Obama is a Christian. If you're a Christian then you can't be a Muslim
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