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Old 10-02-2008, 08:40 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Noir View Post
I understand well why the people in those countries see him as an hero but there are plenty of people from so called colonialist countries who are giving their full support to him and for example wearing t-shirts they have bought from the local supermarket. He just doesn't work as that kind of an universal symbol of peace and freedom like some people appear to think in my opinion...

Most of the people executed were oppressors as you said but he also gained reputation by having all of his men executed who tried to leave his troops and I doubt he managed to get all the facts before ordering each of those executions. I also remember hearing about Che having something against homosexuals which resulted in some of them being even killed on his orders but I might be wrong with this one.

You have a great point. I am not one to go out and buy a Che t-shirt, cause its just not my style. Some people, mainly nationalistic Mexican Americans, wear a t-shirt with his face on it and they are all proud about it because they think it stands for Viva la Raza or Viva la Brown Mexican or something. Wrong. Che was a WHITE Argentinian, and a rich one at that. What Che DOES stand for, is freedom. He saw the social inequality that existed because of the U.S backed government. He wanted all that to change, for everyone to be equal, he wanted to liberate the people...and that is why he was a Socialist. He recognized what the U.S was doing to the countries in Central America. I mean, overthrowing democratically elected officials because they didnt suit their interest and putting a puppet in the office so that the U.S can milk all the goods from those countries? I am glad that Che said fuck you. Anybody with that amount of heart and fire to do that is a hero in my book.

You are right. Both Che and Fidel were against homosexuals and regarded it as a sin. I dont know anything about Che executing homosexuals, not that I would support the claim, but I wouldnt completely deny it.

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I do not see what is so heroic in starting a nuclear war which would kill dozens of millions of people but guess it might explain why I was little confused in the first place.
well....there are hero's of war, isnt there? And if I recall...it wasnt Che that almost started WWIII. It wasnt even him at all. He only said that if he and Fidel had had access to the nuclear missiles placed by the USSR, they would have nuked the crap out of the U.S. So, what? I mean, he may have, who knows. If I recall, it was one of the Soviet commanders who ordered for the missiles to be launched, but his men refused to do it. The U.S almost did get nuked. and it may have been deserved.

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