From what I've read, Arlene Foster needs to be held to account over the half a billion pounds wasted in that cash for ash scandal. :)

It was her involvement in dodgy renewable energy investment that led to McGuinness quitting when he did, although he was dying any way so probably would have gone sooner rather than later.

Still, British politicians are forever getting involved with misappropriation of public funds and getting away with it. Why should Foster be treated any differently? Think about it though, what politician doesn't misappropriate public funds? It's called tax and spend....

I know it's simplistic. But the UK could have saved all that money. Not to mention a thousand young British soldiers that would be alive to today if you would just have left

The same could be said for the IRA, the UVF, and other paramilitary and criminal groups operating in Ireland. They could have just desisted. It's also really fucking naïve to expect the British government to let some bunch of murders just waltz off with a chunk of territory.

Why is that really? Once the ship building and linen mills were gone, the north ceased to be economically important. After WW2 with the increased range of aircraft and submarines the North's strategic importance as a forward base in the north Atlantic disappeared also.

Partition was a table scrap thrown to a loyal British dog. You needed the Orange man then, you used them in much the same way the southern aristocracy used poor southern whites in the American south. a cheap way to keep control. When their importance diminished after WW2, they became Britain's dirty little secret, a police state in modern, progressive western European democracy.

But why, when the the shit hit the fan in 1969, when you had a way out, you didn't, take it. Numerous calls for a UN brokered cease fire were ignored. Was it really worth it to sacrifice over a thousand young British lives to prop up your last colony? Medieval troglodytes like the orange order?

I had occasion to drink with four British soldiers on leave in the US. I was recently discharged myself, so we hit it off. this was the late '80s, yeah that dates me as an old fart.

given it was four to one, I kept my republican leanings to myself. But all four had served in the north, one had lost a friend. While they all had a virulent hatred for the IRA, but even more so was the feeling of let the fuckers kill each other, its not worth any more British lives.

What do you suppose would have happened if the North had been handed over to the Republic? Would the naïve, romantic notion of a "united" Ireland finally have been achieved? No, of course not. Do you seriously expect that loyalist populations would accept the Republican government?

You would be left with two possible scenarios. A civil war waged against an Irish government, with bombs going off in Dublin, Wexford and Cork pubs and shopping centres, instead of in London, Manchester and Guildford. Loyalist populations being persecuted by Irish paramilitaries and police, quite possibly the need for British military intervention, even war between Britain and Ireland.

Or, ethnic cleansing of the North, with Protestant/Loyalist communities forcibly removed from the province.

Seems that Sinn Fein, which wants the United Kingdom to stay in the European Union, could be at odds with a growing movement to see Ireland leave the EU along with the UK. Today a senior Irish diplomat has gone on television calling for an "Irexit" to maintain the strong ties between the two nations.

James Brokenshires speech in parliament today was meaningless. A complete waste of oxygen. Typical of Theresa Mays government, which can't make a decision on any thing.

Yes, the same as what's been happening to Catholics there for centuries. :)

I think that's an isolated view. Only a few months ago a poll in Ieland saw 90% want to stay in the EU. And the Irish are supposed to be dumb? I don't think so.

I'd like to see that poll. I seriously doubt if there is a population any where in the European Union that is 90% in favour of remaining there.

Ah, I think I found the poll! Commissioned by European Movement Ireland, an (according to RTE news website) NGO that works to build links between Ireland and the EU, 88% of people polled agreed that Ireland should stay in the EU, whilst 11% disagreed. 82% thought that Britain should not have voted to leave the EU. Hmmm.... Any one else smell a rat here? Probably polled its own workforce or some thing.

Actually yes it was 88%.

Same survey claims to have found that 99% of Irelands students support remaining in the EU.

Meanwhile, a teenager has been arrested for allegedly making threats of a violent and sexual nature against Arlene Foster, via Facebook.

He must need fucking glasses. I mean, Arlene Foster looks like a manster IMHO. Some guys have no taste.

Google Diane Abbot. That fat cow doesn't even look human, yet claims to have received threats of rape during the last general election campaign.

Haven't yet seen any news to suggest that the Glorious 12th passed off as any thing more than the celebration of British culture that it ought to be.

Perhaps the Provis are too busy trying to work out what their relevance is, since they are now neither terrorists, or democrats, to protest about people marching?

[QUOTE=FuckingRotter;1608511]Haven't yet seen any news to suggest that the Glorious 12th passed off as any thing more than the celebration of British culture that it ought to be.

Perhaps the Provis are too busy trying to work out what their relevance is, since they are now neither terrorists, or democrats, to protest about people marching


been away for a bit.

British culture on display? riot police and attack dogs needed to get the Celtic squad off the field from a racist mob.

British culture, a mix of racism and pyromania? numerous dwellings damaged by loyalist bonfires.

the homes shown in this pic are from the Shankill, so the silly cunts were probably waving their little union jacks as their homes burned. But lots of damage in mixed areas as well

What goes down in Belfast on 5th of November? In Lewes in West Sussex, they have a wonderful tradition. Parading through the town with burning crosses, usually carrying effigies of the villain of the year, rather than of Guy Fawkes. One year that arch Crusader, Tony Blair featured.

Was that an Old Firm match by the way? There was some thing on the news about Celtic, but football is a bit dull so I don't take much notice. Celtic do have a tradition for waving tricolours around and singing IRA songs, and well, generally trying to provoke ordinary, decent people to violence. So hardly in a position to complain. After all, it is my understanding that the clubs themselves are required to ensure their fans good behaviour these days.

Prison?

By the way, Celtic are in trouble with UEFA for allowing fans to display a large banner portraying a balaclava clad terrorist at an away match in the Republic. If you're going to go waving your Irish nationalist cock around, I suggest you don't decorate it with green and white hoops first!

Good point.

Sky Television News this morning reporting that Celtic are also being investigated over their fans blocking walkways at the same Linfield match. So, just like their "You'll Never Walk Alone" chanting Scouse mates, the Provi Celtic mob aren't beyond putting hundreds of lives at risk by fucking up football grounds. How long before we see another Heysel or Hilsborough, but this time with the green hoops being responsible?

If any one feels strongly that the Good Friday agreement discriminates against former British soldiers, whilst protecting terrorists, there is a demonstration in London on the 9th of September. :)

Never took the oath, had a few dodgy moments in Noraid in the 70'S And 80'S.

I've gone on record here before, I support a general amnesty across the board. Include the IRA, the security forces, and even the loyalist murder gangs. I separate them because the IRA occasionally engaged an opponent who might be able to shoot back. Let it end, amnesty for everyone with a cut off date at the good Friday accords.

More trouble for Celtic. After receiving a paltry £20 000 fine for their fans behaviour at Linfield, they've gone on the rampage in Sunderland before a friendly match. Footage shows them trying to set fire to an off-license in the city. They were later chased off by locals, and a picture on the Sun website shows a Celtic fan, complete with his green and white hooped shirt, lying on the floor, his bleeding head cushioned by a Union Jack flag!

Shows the reality of the situation for these separatist idiots. They need our money to support their lazy arses!

That's possibly a first time someone found a good use for the flag!:skull-tea

funny, there were no Celtic fans allowed at Linfield. So how exactly did they cause any problems? a pub in west Belfast set up a fan zone for them

Yes, my mistake, the match took place in Glasgow. What actually happened at the Linfield leg was that Celtic decided not to take up the ticket allocation. Celtic were investigated after one of their players tied a green and white scarf to the home supporters end goal. A definite act of provocation.

So it's not just the fans, the club can't even control its players!

So, just we are clear, a player tied scarf to a goal, and some people in the stands raised a banner of a man in a beret and sun glasses and we we are equating that with a mob throwing foreign objects and storming the field?

And it goes with out saying that Celtic took both matches.

Or a group of old men in bowler hats and orange sashes going for a stroll on a summers day?

UEFA don't allow political displays during European competition matches. As for the scarf, football grounds traditionally have "ends". These are the stands behind the goals at each end of the pitch allocated to home and away supporters. An away player tieing any thing to the home end goal post would certainly been seen as provocation. Still, complaints of provocation only seem to have legitimacy to you when it is Irish Catholics being provoked!

A former army commander has criticised the "politically correct" military recruitment process that allowed a man who was beaten by a loyalist paramilitary gang as a teenager, and who gave an interview to a republican newspaper, to join the Royal Marines, and subsequently supply munitions and make explosive devices for Continuity IRA. Ciaran Maxwell, a Catholic from Larne, was today sentenced to 18 years for bomb making and other terrorist offences.

Perhaps a better use would have been to hang the scum with it. Footage has emerged of the green and white hooped cunts in Sunderland chanting in celebration of the jihadist murder of Lee Rigby.

It makes one wonder how he slipped through the net?

Politically correct recruitment process, obviously.

Yeah, obviously on the recruitment. But I meant how did he slip through the security net until he was almost ready to blow someone or something up?