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tom8517 07-09-2018 02:23 PM

To answer your earlier question, a total of two PSNI officers and one prison officer have been killed by dissident Republicans since Good Friday. Compare this with 300 RUC constables, 29 screws, and over 1000 British soldiers killed by the IRA pre good Friday.

So, you may call the peace process a sham, the numbers suggest otherwise.

tom8517 07-09-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FuckingRotter (Post 1671634)
Belfast and Londonderry are both British cities, and I’m pretty certain we have discussed continued use of bombs and guns to terrorise the population of both those places in this thread.

Still, how many Catholic PSNI and prison officers have been murdered by the IRA since the official ceasefire? How many sectarian murders and punishments have been carried out on British soil by British citizens since the official ceasefire? When was the last time the winner of a democratic election was able to form a government in Northern Ireland without the say so of the second place party?

By the way, I suppose you missed the part about an IRA volunteer infiltrating the British Army and stealing weapons and explosives with the intention of supplying his comrades back home?


I'm familiar with it. One, he wasn't an IRA volunteer, or even a member of one the alphabet soup of wannabe IRA groups. What we in the US refer to as a lone wolf.

Of course the fact the he had been beaten half to death by loyalist thugs at 16, suffered a fractured skull, might have influenced him.

FuckingRotter 07-11-2018 11:52 AM

In case our paths don't cross before, happy 12th!

FuckingRotter 07-11-2018 03:07 PM

Meanwhile, back in Northern Ireland the peace process is gathering momentum. Two police officers and a woman were injured on Tuesday as petrol bombs were thrown once again in the Fountain Estate area of Londonderry, then police were subjected to automatic fire coming from armed men protected by a large group of people, in what is being described as a murder attempt.

Northern Ireland peace, it's the new hope and change!

FuckingRotter 07-11-2018 03:11 PM

I've been through several news reports on this, and there doesn't seem to have been any provocation for this. Looks like the IRA has dug up one of its arms dumps, and is sending its lackys down to attack the Fountain in order to lure the police in and try to kill them.

Of course the lefty BBC are call them "dissident republicans", but they're fucking IRA.

tom8517 07-11-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FuckingRotter (Post 1672321)
In case our paths don't cross before, happy 12th!

Watching the loyalist try to burn down their neighbors homes, followed by fat middle aged men in suits and bowler hats march around in the July heat? Thanks all same, but I'll have to pass.

tom8517 07-11-2018 06:09 PM

If it was the IRA there would have been a body count by now.

FuckingRotter 07-11-2018 10:18 PM

Makes sense. Being the IRA usually involves murdering people, then either claiming it was an accident, or denying having done it!

FuckingRotter 07-13-2018 09:38 PM

Things have been quieter in Northern Ireland after a week of violence in Londonderry which saw police come under attack from petrol bombs, automatic weapons and improvised explosive devices following sectarian attacks on a small protestant community in the cities Bogside.

PSNI have been blaming "New" IRA (same as the old IRA) for the violence which has involved children as young as eight, whilst a fifty year old man was initially arrested on suspicion of attempted murder but later charged with public order offenses.

In seeming retaliation, a bomb has been thrown at the home of former IRA man Gerry Adams. Well, sow the wind, reap the whirlwind as the saying goes. The likes of Sinn Fein, SDLP, the Catholic church, etc, have been making tut-tutting noises, but as usual they aren't doing any thing to actually prevent the continued "peace" from breaking out in Northern Ireland.

FuckingRotter 07-14-2018 01:05 AM

Apparently Sinn Fein are blaming the IRA for the peace that has been showered upon the Adams residence, and the home of another former IRA peace corp volunteer.

tom8517 07-14-2018 11:07 AM

What's your point? Are you really suggesting that a few riots in Derry invalidate the last twenty years since good Friday? You really can't see the difference between the IRA during the troubles and the handful of dissidents active today? The "bomb" thrown at Adam's home was described by police as a large firework. A far cry from the Manchester bomb.

Curious though you fail to comment on the UVF activity in east Belfast and County Down.

tom8517 07-14-2018 11:16 AM

I got a good laugh looking over pics of Orange men dressed up as king Billy. Given William's preference in partners he couldn't join the loyal order of today.

tom8517 07-14-2018 03:48 PM

In law abiding, God fearing , devoted to crown and country east Belfast contractors needed a police escort to remove an illegal bonfire. The contractors also were advised to wear masks to prevent retaliation against them or their families.

FuckingRotter 07-15-2018 03:19 AM

So long as they continue offing potential IRA peace corp volunteers, and refrain from planting bombs in pubs in Guildford, the UVF are unlikely to provoke more than a passing interest.

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Originally Posted by tom8517 (Post 1672795)

Curious though you fail to comment on the UVF activity in east Belfast and County Down.


tom8517 07-15-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FuckingRotter (Post 1672870)
So long as they continue offing potential IRA peace corp volunteers, and refrain from planting bombs in pubs in Guildford, the UVF are unlikely to provoke more than a passing interest.

By potential IRA volunteers you mean nationalist civilians. Potential is correct, of the 547 people murdered by the UVF less than 10 had a connection to the IRA.

Upwards of 70% of the casualties caused by the IRA were armed members of the security forces. The number of Republicans killed by the loyalists was less than 10%, and this includes Sinn Fein politicians.

The IRA fought a war, the UVF butchered people based on what church they chose to spend an hour in on Sunday morning.

FuckingRotter 07-15-2018 09:21 AM

The IRA don't seem to care who they kill. Every one from the former president of their organisation down to a random plasterer sat having a pint in a pub hundreds of miles from the Bogside seems to be fair game. Plus any one that just gets in their way in between.

tom8517 07-15-2018 10:13 AM

I'm really beginning to think you miss the IRA. The only verifiable recent action was the execution of rogue volunteer Gerald Davidson in 2015.

Leaving the morality aside for a moment, it's a question of competence and capability. The Derry riots resulted in the arrest of a few teenagers, and someone threw an over sized firecracker at Gerry Adams house.

FuckingRotter 07-15-2018 10:26 AM

The "riots" as you call them were a concerted effort at terrorising a community that choose to spend an hour every Sunday in the "wrong" church, and has resulted in investigations in to murder attempts of police officers.

I don't miss the IRA, especially as they haven't gone away. It is simply convenient for republican and loyalist politicians, the police, the British, US, European and Irish government, and their apologists, to refer to them as "dissident republicans" so that they can all carry on the pretense of a peace process. It is pretty fucking obvious to me that the IRA is still capable of carrying out actions against security services, and the idea that they have put their arms and explosives "beyond use" is a fucking lie.

tom8517 07-15-2018 11:31 AM

The governments of the USA, the UK, the EU, Irish Republic, Sinn Fein the DUP and the police all engaged in a vast conspiracy to hide the activities of the IRA? I'm surprised you didn't toss in the Dalai Lama. You are right on the edge of tin foil hat territory.

FuckingRotter 07-15-2018 11:49 AM

Not hide, and not a conspiracy in that sense. IRA activity is in plain sight, the kneecappings, beatings, assassinations, pipe bombs, the attacks on the Fountain estate, it is all IRA. Calling it "dissident republican" is simply rebranding. Or spin.

It has Tony Blairs shitty little rat paw prints all over it, and if you don't smell a rat, you really need help!


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