Help ! Rapidshare Problems !

[Sanitarium]

Hello to all !

I'm having some problems with rapidshare lately.
I begin an upload let's say of 4 files about 90 MB each.
I use rapiduploader to upload the files.
The first file was uploaded smoothly the second one too.
But for the third file and after 2-2.5 hours of uploading I get an error message that the file was deleted because it may be a forbidden file (!!!).

As I undestand RS has a black-list of files an everything similar to a file in the list is automatically deleted. I read the FAQ in the RS site and it says that if I want to resolve the problem I have to send an e-mail with the details of the file so they can udelete it. Too much trouble since RS at first sends an automatic response telling us to read the FAQ. So I must resend the e-mail.

Has anyone how can I bypass this kind of cr@p and upload my files without this wasting of time?

Any answer will be most welcome 'cause this is happend for the third time this week and I am tired or this RS nonsense.

Sorry for my attitude guys but I am too angry with RS right now!

Please Heeeeeeelp!

[afk3000]

What was the name of file you tried to upload?

[Sanitarium]

The name was HEOTSSLD1977.rar.003

But this makes no difference because as I said it is the third time this is happening with different files and of course different names.

I have to change the name and the file size to upload all over again.

[Luke rape stalker]

i´m not a upload expert, but...

for some time where the MP3 files with another ending (not xx.mp3)
i see it already here, you d-load a file, rename it and have then the avi /mpeg... file.

try to write behind the filename xxx.JPG or something similar


see there:

http://www.rapeboard.com/showthread.php?t=1814

at the bottom

[afk3000]

Next thing is that they probably use checksum of uploaded files. If that file was baned before they will remember it and will delete it just after upload no matter what is the name (just my guess, i m not sure if they realy remember baned checksums)
But if u never uploaded that files and you made the archives by yourself it is quite strange.

[Sanitarium]

@ afk3000

It is unbeliveable !!!

I've never post that before! As for the checksums you are right they have a list. The strangest thing is that someone in the past tried to post a file identical of mine and they put it in their list! And that happend 3 times already with different files! Go figure !!!

How lucky am I?

[afk3000]

Well you need to be sure that they will not recognize file by checksum consider that:
it is possible that they look into rar file header and looks for files stored in it (its not hard at all and this can be done in rar files protected with password too) and compare filenames with the list... ( just be paranoic ;-) )

But there is an option when you compress the files to encrypt filenames too, so they get nothing from the header... Try to use this option if you are not using it yet.

[Sanitarium]

Thanks afk.

I'll give it a try.

[almisivi]

as I've lobbied before, use mediafire.om

[theman]

Well you need to be sure that they will not recognize file by checksum consider that:
it is possible that they look into rar file header and looks for files stored in it (its not hard at all and this can be done in rar files protected with password too) and compare filenames with the list... ( just be paranoic ;-) )

But there is an option when you compress the files to encrypt filenames too, so they get nothing from the header... Try to use this option if you are not using it yet.

If they're checking checksums you could put random gibberish in text files and that would stop that :p. And the encrypted headers would be good too, but I doubt they store headers since that would add up with as many files as they have.

[atefec]

But there is an option when you compress the files to encrypt filenames too, so they get nothing from the header... Try to use this option if you are not using it yet.

I think this is a very good idea! Apply winrar to pack the files and use the option to encrypt the filenames too. Let us know, if this procedure helps!

[Spytrx]

If you want to upload to RS this is what most people in the scene (warez and otherwise) do (I asume that you have WinRar installed):

=> Right click the file you want to encrypt/upload and select 'Add to archive'

=> Under General tab choose a non-descript filename like 'San4RB004' (Sanitarium for RapeBoard file 004 :) ), compression method is best, and split to volume usually not larger than 98k... make sure you tick the box 'lock archive' (this is the important one) on the right hand side

=> Go to Advanced tab, click set password, tick 'encrypt file name' and then enter your password

=> click ok twice and WinRar now encrypts your file so that nobody but those with the password know what it contains...

I do it like that for many years and never had a file deleted by RS - I had people rat me out, but you loose your folder/Account if that happens so you know about it...


hth

[Sanitarium]

Thanks Spytrx!

I'll give it a try!

PS. Have some rep!

[Sanitarium]

Damn RS, it happened again!

All day I was trying to upload a movie of 10 parts. Almost 1 Gig! And they deleted the 9th file as forbbiden !

And I did all those encryption things!

[Spytrx]

you haven't shared the password or the filename with anyone and you don't use an RS folder?

[edit]
just seen something: Folder Pass www.rapeboard.com ??
erm, hello - do you think they are stupid and confide their database searches just to the files on the board?

what is the point in doing something annonymous and secretive if you paint a huge sign on the outside informing the world that this is the warehouse of all your evil doings? http://i16.tinypic.com/3y496kz.gif

[Sanitarium]

Yes you are right Spytrx.

Very stupid of mine. But I had my reasons.
I will change the pass very soon.
But I'm sure this advise of yours will not solve the problem.
BTW the file deleted were not in this folder.

[bane]

I know I'm still new to this forum & you guys don't know me, but I'm pretty sure I have more experience uploading to Rapidshare than anyone else here.

If you don't believe me, take a look at this:

http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc428/th_94254_RSpoints_122_428lo.jpg

I seriously doubt anyone here can top that. I have so many movies "out there" that my RS Premium Points grow at a rate of 10,000 every week or so.

Now, I've never had a file refused by Rapidshare while trying to upload it unless the RARs of my movie were previously uploaded by me, reported by someone, deleted by RS, & I tried to re-up the same RAR archive that I had saved on my computer.

I quickly learned that trying to re-up those same exact RARs will always be refused by RS. Renaming the RARs never worked either, but all I've ever had to do was re-rar the same movie & re-up it. The only thing you need to do different is make sure the name you give the RAR archive is not the same.

I've always used the same exact settings & it's always worked. By settings I mean I choose:

Compression Method: Best
Split to volumes, bytes: 104857600 (which is 100 MB exactly)
I've never checked "Lock archive" (as Spytrx suggested)
I've always pressed the "Advanced" tab > then the "Set password..." button (I've always used the same password - even when I'm re-raring a movie that was already reported & deleted).
And I've always checked the box for "Encrypt file names"
Then I hit ok twice to create the rar.

Like I said the only thing that has to be different is the RAR name, the movie inside can have the same name. Including giberish files or any other elaborate methods to deceive Rapidshare is not necassary.

The files are always accepted by Rapidshare even though it is the same exact movie, split in the same exact file sizes, with the same exact password.

People PM me all the time saying my movie was deleted & could I please re-up it. I will usually do it for them if there isn't another post of that same movie on that particular forum (I'm long-past caring about RS Premium Points). So I know what I'm talking about here because I've done this a LOT.

What I'm basically saying is that Rapidshare isn't nearly as smart as you guys are giving them credit for.

I know what the problem is, and the solution was already suggested (sort of) by Spytrx when he said "choose a non-descript filename like 'San4RB004'".

You see, Sanitarium is uploading movies that have been around for long time, and most definitely been uploaded to Rapidshare, reported, & deleted many many times. Which means most of the obvious names for those particular movies have already been chosen by other uploaders and those filenames + that movie inside it are all on the gigantic blacklist maintained by Rapidshare.

So all you have to do to solve this problem is make sure you just RARed up the movie yourself so you know its brand-new (Meaning it's not a RAR you downloaded from somewhere else & saved, & then tried just renaming it when it wouldn't upload. If that's the case, simply unRAR it first & re-RAR it), and just give it a crazy name that no one could ever have thought of before. I know that will work, because it's never failed for me.

[Sanitarium]

Thak you for your effort bane.

First of all I must say that the files I upload are rared by me. Some of them are reencoded by me because I dowloaded them ruined or in parts. So it is impossible for someone to have posted these files prior to me.

The filenames I use. As you can see are not complete words but tha initials of the movies. This might be a thing.

And I'm trying to split the files not in square numbers (like 90MB). I prefer sizes like 91 MB or 93 MB for each file. Just to prevent the file deletion.

I know I may have not as much experience in this as you but I can not think any logical explanation for that RS crap. It is the fourth time a file of mine is refused by RS. And believe me it's a lot of wasted upload time. I am using and 2MBps ADSL connection and the most speed I get when uploading is 30Kbps. I need about 6 hours to upload a movie of 600MB.

The last thing I will try is this carzy name thing you suggested. And let's see what RapidS^%$$##$@ (grrrrrrrrr) does.

Thanks again mate!

[bane]

OK, I was just trying to help.

I suppose it's possible RS has instituted some new checking feature very recently that I just haven't encountered yet.

Your first post did say, "I'm having some problems with rapidshare LATELY."

I understand your reluctance to try my idea with such a slow upload speed, but I do have one other idea.

You are obviously loyal to Rapidshare like I am, but how about just this once you upload the movie you're having problems with to another site like Megarotic or something? I don't have an account with anywhere else, so it will take me a day or two to download it, but once I do I'll try uploading it to Rapidshare myself.

That would at least tell us whether the problem is the movie or if Rapidshare has singled you out for some reason. Hell, we could all work on this for you. Someone that has an account wherever you decide to upload it could get it figured out for you the same day.

[Sanitarium]

Hey don't get me wrong mate!

I thank you for your time and your effort!
I really do!

This idea of yours sound good. I'll try to upload a smaller movie and I will let you know when it will be uploaded. I also don't have any account except RS.

Thanks mate!

[ranirape]

Try uploading.com. That is helpful...

[Spytrx]

Hello Bane - thanks for your input...
any reason you don't check Lock Archive? (just curious)

Anyway, the new measures with new search patterns have been implemented with RScom, not de - I am Admin/Mod at a number of sites and these changes did have a noticable impact on all those boards at first until people smartend up and made their filenames non-discript... RS-AG in Germany had massive problems with the law and only just got away with it, I guess that is why they tightened up theur act...

Don't forget that you cannot compare normal copyright material sharing with the sort of sharing that goes on here - the material, even though fantasy, is classed illegal in almost every country you care to think of and if you get caught with it the least you can expect is confiscation of your hardware - whilst a pirate movie these days gets you a slap on the wrist at best... Even normal porn doesn't come close to this - no admin will want to have that kind of material on their servers... ;)

[bane]

Hello Bane - thanks for your input...
any reason you don't check Lock Archive? (just curious)
Hi Sprtrx, I don't check Lock Archive cuz it doesn't give you any extra security. Only Encrypt File Names hides the contents of the rar.

If you check lock archive then you can't add anything to it after it's created. If for example you rar up a series of vids & when you're done you realize you forgot the last vid in the series, you can just drag that vid onto the rar & it will go in there. Even if it's password protected, it will still go in there, it will just prompt you for the password first.

That's it's sole function, it has nothing to do with keeping the contents of the rar hidden. Like I said only Encrypt File Names does that.

I never check it because sometimes I forget to add an NFO file, or I change my mind about which site I want to promote, so I'll just make a new NFO with the same name & drag it into the rar. It will ask if you want to overwrite the existing file just like copying to a folder. Go ahead & experiment with it & you'll see that's all it does.


I too am and have been an Admin/Mod at many sites over the years. About 2 months ago, I finally got tired of constant uploading & checking every single new person's posts to make sure they're following the rules & editing them when they weren't and all that. I've been doing that stuff for so long, and since I've uploaded so much to RS that even if everyone all across the world never downloads one of my files again, I'll still be able to download from RS for free for the next 2 years. I just feel like I've done my bit for King and Country as far as warez is concerned. And now I'm ready to retire. :)

So, what you say may very well be true. I haven't been moderating for the last 2 months or so (although I also haven't read about any problem like Sanitarium is experiencing, either), and you were correct in assuming that I've only ever uploaded regular warez before (Holloywood-type moviez, appz, & gamez). In fact the two shares I've made on this forum were the first porn of any type that I've ever uploaded (though I've certainly downloaded my fair share :D ).

Maybe you're right & Rapidshare is paying closer attention to files like the ones that are shared here. But I still don't think so. Illegal is illegal. Rapidshare's defence, if ever sued or charged with anything, was in the beginning, is now, and always shall be, "We delete all illegal files on our servers as soon as they are brought to our attention".

They aren't going to seriously start striking out at the people they know damn well provide 90% of their income. That's why I can always immediately reupload a reported file just by re-raring it with a different name. They could do a much better filtering job if they really wanted to, but they've always done just the bare minimum to comply with the law because they know where all their money is coming from.

But, that's just my opinion. I've certainly been wrong before & I have been sort of out of the loop for a couple months. And I've never been in the loop as far as RS's policy towards files of this type. I'm just inclined to believe it's no different from any other type of warez.

I am sure of one thing though, If Sanitarium can get that movie to me, I'll get it uploaded to Rapidshare! ;)

[Spytrx]

hehe - that is exactly why I tick it - so nobody can tinker with it, not even I...

that is a very generous offer - now all you two need is to Gmail the film over and you're sorted... ;)

[bane]

hehe - that is exactly why I tick it - so nobody can tinker with it, not even I...
But you said previously:

If you want to upload to RS this is what most people in the scene (warez and otherwise) do ... make sure you tick the box 'lock archive' (this is the important one) on the right hand side

I do it like that for many years and never had a file deleted by RS - I had people rat me out, but you loose your folder/Account if that happens so you know about it...
That sounds like you were implying you do it to keep your files from being deleted from RS (which would not help at all), and not to keep people from mucking with archives you created. That is what this whole thread is about.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm being confrontational, I know I may be comming off sounding like an asshole to you, but it's just that I'm so used to being the one in charge responsible for policing forums (or at least a well-respected member that everyone looks to for answers) that I just can't seem to help myself from calling people on their BS, because I've been doing it for so long it has become second-nature to me. Besides, on another thread you said to me:

we are here to share in our knowledge and learn from one another
I couldn't agree more. So there's nothing wrong with admitting you didn't know something. If you can prove you're right about RS cracking down disproprtionally harder on people who upload these types of files (like pointing out a link to their site where it says that or something), I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong & you were right. I'll even thank you for teaching me something I didn't know before. :D

Knowledge is power, & everyone should do their best to absorb it like a sponge.;)

[Spytrx]

no mate, enjoying it massively - but now is the time to take it into the idle talk as not to hijack the topic here...

[Sanitarium]

Well ... here's something extremly strange!

I uploaded a file (part of a 12 parted rar) at RS.com (the file was the part04) and I got once again the well known message that this file may be a forbbiden file and the upload failed. So I've decided to upload the same 12 files at RS.de and the upload was successfull.
Afterwards I used the remote uploads option at RS.com and I pasted the links of RS.de. The files were copied just fine. No error messages, no forbbiden files, nothing.

Any ideas?

[supaflysmoothy3]

I can shed a little light on this.

Rapidshare does not actually look at the video files before deleting them ever. Nope. Anytime anyone emails them a states that a file is illegal it's gone. No questions asked.

When a file get's "FORBIDDEN TO BE SHARED" the checksum is put in a master table. That table is compared to the checksum of any file you upload if it matches the file won't go through.

So, to get around a forbidden file just: 1) Change the password, 2) Zip it differently 3) Add a dummy text file to it etc...

If you're wondering why they don't actually check the contents of the files it's because they know that 90%+ of the stuff uploaded is illegal (regular movies, porn, software, music etc...) & they get a lot of money from the uploaders/downloaders so this is a way to keep the authorities at bay while still keeping us.

[ego]

All i have to say is that i am happy there are well informed people around and they willing to help.
Thanks guys and sorry for the off-topic!

[TeenSpirit]

bane is right, although i would like to add my thoughts on a less .... empirical way :) I support you dude - no question!
but first of all i want to mention for the quick readers: the LOCK option of winrar that somebody mentioned up there, has nothing to do with privacy/password options ... it is depending on the program you use a security function like write protection for updating files in the archive

Now for RS:
Think of on Petabyte of data, which is the approx. number RS gives for hosted data. Think that every user uses the filesize limit. Think of a normal PC.

- 1000,000,000,000,000 bytes (shit on the 8bit peanuts rounding error :skull-big )

- 100,000,000 bytes per file

- 100,000,000 files :skull-big

- Extracting time if as rar-format on a normal PC: 10s

- 8 letter Password only english language with and without capitalized letter: 8^52 Possibilities

(around 900000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) sorry if i missed a 0 or two :)

Now: File vs. File in Archive

-Checksum/Filesize/Name check for a file needs on a server not a second as is standard procedure for fileservers

-Filesize/Name check for a file IN an archive is easy due to archive-header

-Checksum check for a file IN an archive needs more time and is hardly managable without a lot of effort BUT Checksums are also delievered from to archive for the files in the archive !!!

Now: File in Archive vs. File in Archive with password

-Filesize/Name check for a file IN an archive with pw is easy due to archive-header
-Checksum check IN the archive with pw is still delievered by the archive itself

-Filename encrypted too!
You can check nothing without having the password, and the verification if the used password was correct
-here i should remember that one extraction process is about 10s and the possibilities for an 8 letter pw is 8^52....
-in words, for checking all possibilities, you need some billion years!!!

i.e. the only possibility to crack it, would be to crack the encrpytion method itself (remember, every protection brings its bypass by itself!), which is ridiculous for this amount of files.

Summary:

-identification of files due to CRC (checksums), filenames, filesizes
-all obtainable from all files but fully encrpyted files i.e. the passworded rar-archive with names protected also for example.

BUT

-do not forget, this is for files. the archives THEMSELF have a checksum/filesize/filename themselves!!!

-This is why you will hv problems reupping files/archive that are on whatever kind of "blacklist".

-The other thing i mentioned somewhere else, and that is from where the kills originate is complains - and these come from board visitors, otherwise they would not be able to complain and get through with it - because without pw no proof, and pws are posted here. And that is how a CRC gets on a blacklist! Once there... never use again --> new archive!

- here is the only point i have to contradict what somebody mentioned. You do not have to change the filename of the file to be archived. Each encryption uses in some part the influence of random generators. without them there was no encryption ! Try it yourself if you do not believe! Make two times an fully protect rar archive from one and the same file. then go and compare it in a commandline via "fc filename1.ext filename2.ext". You see...

ENCRYPTION IS GREAT!

q.e.d. - proof of bane's empirically derived experience :skull-thu :skull-thu :skull-thu

if u hv any questions... feel free to ask... :skull-big :skull-big :skull-big

[TeenSpirit]

i wrote so much, that in the time i was writing most of my post got obsolete :skull-big :skull-big :skull-big :skull-big :skull-big naa... just did not read the second page :D:D