This site.....

[ChiTownHoney]

So, I like posting here alot...but I DONT understand the rules. Ok, I understand almost all of them with good reason, but I dont understand....

Where the hell do you draw the line on the rule of "no real rape". Its only a fantasy board, right? Yet, the thread "real rape" has people freely posting their real stories, knowing full well that there are tons of fuckers getting off on that shit. This is not the place for that, that stuff belongs in a victims site or self help site, not here.

Ok, now....PLEASE somebody explain that rule and the double standard. Cause I really want to know.

Ok, we all know that not all the people who visit here have good hearts and dont really want to hurt people. Actually, thats a damn understatement. Will you not agree?

[squidley]

One problem is that there is a pretty fine line between reality and fantasy. Many fantasies are fed by reality you see. Perhaps that is one reason you see more than a few rape and molestation victims posting on sites such as this one.

Is someone discussing their rape as a reason for their fantasy life wrong to do so? What about sharing of the someone's experiences with a rape victim who enjoys this particular kink? Are they wrong to discuss it if victim is not named or does not object?

What about news stories or just research on the subject? Are the real rapes discribed there to be considered taboo as well?

There are some tough calls to be made, should we decide to censor all of these topics, but I thought I might throw out some food for thought.

The Squid

[sindyloo]

Sorry cant agree with you on that one! There is no double standard at all. "the real rape thread" was started as a method to help those of both sexes to get some kind of help from their real life rape incidents.

Whether it was to just get it out of their heads/thoughts and put it down here for others to read and to offer their own thoughts and help if they could give it.

It was meant to be therapy and to help those victims. And in no FUCKING way was it meant to get people off and they damn well better never get off on those sad stories that where shared with wounded hearts by others that wanted some support!

[ChiTownHoney]

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[ego]

As far as I have understood, there is no line. The rule is there to protect the site from unwelcomed attention, as much as to protect members from malefic comments.
There are more threads than the "real rape thread" that deal with that subject. I've made some comments now and then that could easily be taken as reference to real rape, but none told me something, so i guess its ok as long as its accordant to the spirit of the rule.

[ChiTownHoney]

I think you are really naive if you dont think that people get off on those stories. This board is not the place for therapy, I dont care what anyone says.

[Ragman]

i have no doubt there are sickos out there who get off on the real rape thread, Its a sad truth that like you said.. not everyone who comes to this site makes the same distinctions between real rape and rape fantasy. We can not limit ourselves simply because there are sick people in the world.

i am sure there are fuckwads out there who watch barney the dinosaur just to oggle the children, its disgusting! but barney the dinosaur still films (or so I think not in the mood to fact check that .. but if they did stop it probably wasn't to deprive the fuckwads of their eyecandy)

I think the idea or "No real rape" really means No GLORIFYING real rape. Don't come on the board and say " hey I totally raped this chick last night who wants to hear my story!?"

Real rape is a terrible thing and I think this board offers a unique experiance, a place where victims can go and share both their fantasies and their real experiances rather than just one or the other.

of course I could be completely missing the mark.. But I think the "real Rape" thread is a credit to this board and one of the things that seperates this board from some of the more disturbing rape "fantasy" places on the internet

[shysnale]

So, I like posting here alot...but I DONT understand the rules. Ok, I understand almost all of them with good reason, but I dont understand....

Where the hell do you draw the line on the rule of "no real rape". Its only a fantasy board, right? Yet, the thread "real rape" has people freely posting their real stories, knowing full well that there are tons of fuckers getting off on that shit. This is not the place for that, that stuff belongs in a victims site or self help site, not here.

Ok, now....PLEASE somebody explain that rule and the double standard. Cause I really want to know.

Ok, we all know that not all the people who visit here have good hearts and dont really want to hurt people. Actually, thats a damn understatement. Will you not agree?

no rule here,

just bring good fun at the second degree, and you can cross the line a little

It's all good as log as you don't act like one of these morons from the past (Spaulding for free) (Wife Domintor)

[ChiTownHoney]

To me its no different than the rape stories section. People get off on those stories and you dont call them perverts. Most people will know the difference, but most wont care. I think most people here only say things that people want to hear out of fear of being chastized.

Ok, so yeah its wrong to come on here and say, oh I'm a real rapist. Is that the only reason for the rule?

[ego]

Personally, i would like to hear what he has to say.

[Rogue]

I think the "real Rape" thread is a credit to this board

You took the words out of my mouth. It probably is a double standard, but one that was being let slide because it is the victim's choice to post it, it's never going to find it's way onto the board otherwise, unless someone she confided in betrays her and reveals it against her wishes. It wouldn't be long before that's deleted though.

It used to make sense to me, until the celebrity rape incident. Now I have no idea how the "no real rape" rule works. One of the reasons given was that people might get off on it, which is exactly what you guys are talking about could happen in the Real Rape Thread. We either let a few sicko's control what thousands of people can post and read, or we don't. There's no point if you're trying to have it both ways.

[shysnale]

To me its no different than the rape stories section. People get off on those stories and you dont call them perverts. Most people will know the difference, but most wont care. I think most people here only say things that people want to hear out of fear of being chastized.

Ok, so yeah its wrong to come on here and say, oh I'm a real rapist. Is that the only reason for the rule?

Look, if one day you have kids and they happen to be boys, they will probably ask for toys, and these toys will probably be plastic guns so they can play kid war games. Does that mean they're bound to join the army when they're 18 and they will be prone to kill people without any feelings ? I don't think so.

Being an adult doesn't mean your childhood is 100% burried. Especially is you're over 30, because at that age most adults have reallly lost their illusions about any kind of 'golden future' and they need to escape through any kind of games or fantasies especially when they know what the real world is all about. This place helps talking and getting these fantasies out of you so you can feel someone has been listening to you. Of course sometimes when I write my posts I think ho fuck I may give inspiration to a real bastard who's gonna rape an innocent young girl and she's gonna strugle for years with therapy before she can have a normal life again. But it's the same thing with movies and theatre. Should we stop movies about Vietnam war just because it may inspire some freaks to buy a machine gun and fire around ? No, history has to be taught through movies. Should we stop any action movies like 'Die Hard' because the bad characteres look much better than Bruce Willis and they may give inspiration to freakos ? No way, movies, theatres and now websites should help us to express ourselves and cure a little that stress we all share. The world is not perfect. Some psychos will take inspiration here, so will they in the movies theatres, but that's the way it is. As long as the line 'for those who fantasize about rape' is still showing in the front page there should be no problem.

[ChiTownHoney]

trust me..this site is LOADED with sickos...

[shysnale]

trust me..this site is LOADED with sickos...

Yeah, and maybe you are one of them. Maybe few years ago you did tie down and torture your boyfriend because you were unhappy with his behaviour ?
Who knows ? I guess that's pretty much what they call the 'Internet Miracle'. People of different moralities and different cultures can forget about their differences and communicate...

[ChiTownHoney]

I agree with you, I AM a sicko, which makes me believe even more that there are more sickos here than you can imagine. In fact the very men that "empathize" with the real rape victims are the ones getting off to their stories. I almost gaurantee it. Nobody will ever admit it though.

[Night.Bane]

I think you are really naive if you dont think that people get off on those stories. This board is not the place for therapy, I dont care what anyone says.
I think CTH is right on this one.

There are some sick, depraved motherfuckers out there--in here!--are are no doubt getting off to these true-life horror stories.

You're really threading the needle by having a rape self-help thread on a board designed for rape enthusiasts.

[Sternenlied]

Well, posting an own private story about being raped is every member's personal decision. It's optional, not mandatory, so nobody has to.
Since this site is for adults only and a puplic forum everyone can read without being a member everybody who posts anything here should be aware it can be read by anyone visiting the site. Even deranged people getting off on those stories.
The thread was created by a rape victim who wanted to tell our members her story and many others followed.
So what exactly is the point here?

In fact the very men that "empathize" with the real rape victims are the ones getting off to their stories.

So every man who understands rape victims and emphasises with them does get off on it? Friends, family members, therapists, doctors, etc ... ?

I almost gaurantee it.

You almost guarantee it?
Meaning you don't really know and can't tell ...
What's it going to be?

[Night.Bane]

Which is worse--being raped or writing about on a rape board with the full-blown knowledge that some douche bag with his shorts around his ankles is getting off to the story?

Is it, in effect, getting raped twice? Or does it not matter if you don't actually know douche_bag_01 is yanking to your horror story?

I think that's the point.

[ChiTownHoney]

No not "every man" but look at the site, its called Rape Board, its in big red blood letters. The people who visit here LIKE rape. You can call it only fantasy, but the point is that the universal CONCEPT of rape excites most people who visit here. They click on the thread not because they are genuinly concerned...I mean, there may be a few or so, but I think the majority of people that read the stories LIKE them.

And no, how can I really know? Thats not even possible. Of course I dont know for sure, but I have a really good idea. If I would have said "I gaurantee it" now THAT would have been grounds for some questioning.

In one thread a very respectable member went into great detail about the supposed "real" rape of someone he knew. He wrote it out as if he was writing a piece of erotica, written to get people off. When I called him out on it, some board members attacked ME, saying I cant seperate reality from fantasy, when he stated damn well that it was a real story. Even the most respected board members know that rape, even real rape, will excite people who "only have rape fantasies".

[Sternenlied]

Which is worse--being raped or writing about on a rape board with the full-blown knowledge that some douche bag with his shorts around his ankles is getting off to the story?

No not "every man" but look at the site, its called Rape Board, its in big red blood letters. The people who visit here LIKE rape. You can call it only fantasy, but the point is that the universal CONCEPT of rape excites most people who visit here. They click on the thread not because they are genuinly concerned...I mean, there may be a few or so, but I think the majority of people that read the stories LIKE them.

Well, being raped is being attacked and forced to something you don't want, posting this experience in a public board is a conscious and voluntary decision the victims of rape make for themselves.
I don't think there's any "which is worse" since those two are completely different things.
But whatever might ring true to you ... the decision is up to the people who posted their stories. Judging their decision is not your business.
As ChiTownHoney stated: This is a rape fantasy forum. So nobody has to post their story but if people do - no problem there.

[ChiTownHoney]

I see your point, that its up to them, but it strikes me as weird that they think that nobody should get off on their stories, are they REALLY that naive? Its like giving cake to a fat kid, even though he knows he has diabetes and is going to end up in the hosptital. People want to believe that this is a fantasy site, but I'm sure real stuff gets a great amount of people off just as much as fake stuff does. So, I hope that they realize that thats going to happen, and I personally thought it was VERY laughable when people stated that nobody better not mention how hot it makes them. Thats fine, but you can imagine all the jerking off going on even thought they stay quite.

[Night.Bane]

Well, being raped is being attacked and forced to something you don't want, posting this experience in a public board is a conscious and voluntary decision the victims of rape make for themselves.
I don't think there's any "which is worse" since those two are completely different things.
But whatever might ring true to you ... the decision is up to the people who posted their stories. Judging their decision is not your business.
As ChiTownHoney stated: This is a rape fantasy forum. So nobody has to post their story but if people do - no problem there.

In the Rowdy Room, anything goes (or so this noob thought). I agree it's their decision whether or not to tell their story; I reserve the right to think this might be the wrong place to do it.

Again, we're really trying to thread the needle here with banishing real rape discussion (which I totally support, by the way) for legal, ethical, and moral reasons while permitting "real life" victim stories putatively to get it off their chest, to help them deal with the horror--yet, these are stories that we all acknowledge some low-lifes are stroking to, perhaps even posting a "Yeah, that's really horrible, truly," response while they have their cocks in hand.

Of course, maybe that's the point, maybe some of the victim's get off on a guy getting off to their story.

It wasn't my intent to judge the motivation of those who post their story--I'm condeming those who are getting off to it. If dudes are getting off to it, doesn't that totally circumvent the real rape ban?

[ChiTownHoney]

If dudes are getting off to it, doesn't that totally circumvent the real rape ban?


Agreed. Like giving cake to the fat kid. Real rape feeds the real rapists, definitely. All more reason for those types to come here.

[Sternenlied]

I see your point, that its up to them, but it strikes me as weird that they think that nobody should get off on their stories, are they REALLY that naive? Its like giving cake to a fat kid, even though he knows he has diabetes and is going to end up in the hosptital. People want to believe that this is a fantasy site, but I'm sure real stuff gets a great amount of people off just as much as fake stuff does. So, I hope that they realize that thats going to happen, and I personally thought it was VERY laughable when people stated that nobody better not mention how hot it makes them. Thats fine, but you can imagine all the jerking off going on even thought they stay quite.

I wouldn't dispute the fact many visitors of this board might use those stories to jerk off. There is a general fascination that men feel when hearing about women being raped and the closer and more "lively" the story is the more aroused guys get when they have a thing for that. Disturbing but unfornutately true.
As I stated in "Too real to be staged" there was a lot of response to an allegedly real rape video of people who wanted to see it. Also this is part of my job so you really don't have to tell me how many men are drawn to this like flies to ... well, you get the point. That's why we don't allow any real rape videos and the likes.
If people want to post their own stories however - for whatever reason - it's their choice. I wouldn't want to judge if this is naive of whatever since I didn't make that decision.

[ChiTownHoney]

Ok, fair enough, I do agree with the point you made.

I guess what I want to say is that if someone is going to post a real story and then in turn say "nobody better get off on this" they are being foolish and actually, kinda dumb for making such a contradictory statement.

[Sternenlied]

It wasn't my intent to judge the motivation of those who post their story--I'm condeming those who are getting off to it. If dudes are getting off to it, doesn't that totally circumvent the real rape ban?

Well, people talking about the best way to really rape somebody is planning a crime. Something we generally don't allow on this website.
Posting videos (or whatever) of other people being raped ... now that is allowing to "rape" the victim a second time and a crime as well.
If somebody decided however to post something here - fully conscious about the fact others might use that for personal satisfaction (and yes, maybe eventually exactly because of it) - I see no reason to object.
I don't mind if you disagree, that's the only way of making a discussion worthwhile, I just think the "Real Rape Thread" doesn't do us any harm, I actually think being a rape fantasy forum - and we're all pretty much aware of how the general public is opposed to this kind of sexual preference most of the time - showing we support victims of real rape isn't a bad thing.

Real rape feeds the real rapists, definitely. All more reason for those types to come here.

Of course that is a possibility.
Also rape porn might draw them here, rape stories, rape role plays, etc ...
It's a statistical fact for example violent porn doesn't actually "calm" rape urges, it actually enhances them. As do graphic descriptions of rape, especially from the victim's perspective.
What should we do?
Ban everything that might eventually attract real rapists?
If you're so concerned about real rapists getting of on the contents of our forum maybe we should all leave as quickly as possible, close down the board and all feel very ashamed...

[Sternenlied]

I guess what I want to say is that if someone is going to post a real story and then in turn say "nobody better get off on this" they are being foolish and actually, kinda dumb for making such a contradictory statement.

Well, I don't think people want others to get off on their rapes (assuming those stories are true and the member isn't just getting of on writing it, fishing for pity, etc.) so I can understand why they wouldn't want guys to masturbate using the story.
If a rape fantasy forum is the best place for this is of course a valid question, one everybody posting their story has to ask themselves and find their own answer, no question about it.

[ego]

In fact the very men that "empathize" with the real rape victims are the ones getting off to their stories.


Nah .... The men who get off to those stories are the men who "empathize" with the aggressor.
Moreover, i believe that this is beyond sexes.

Here is a third possibility: A therapist for example (straight female), who has rape fantasies. Even if she doesnt want, the morning's memories will be present in night's dreams. ;)
That means she's not empathizing enough to her patient? It even makes things better!


I think its all about this: be able to separate reality and fantasy.

[Night.Bane]

I don't mind if you disagree, that's the only way of making a discussion worthwhile, I just think the "Real Rape Thread" doesn't do us any harm, I actually think being a rape fantasy forum - and we're all pretty much aware of how the general public is opposed to this kind of sexual preference most of the time - showing we support victims of real rape isn't a bad thing.

:skull-thu

[thebarber69]

Hmmm, now were do I start? Let see, first off, I am a sick fuck, (excuse the rudeness) but, I am also a writer (I think at times) and have been approached by one that had a video of her, and what she went threw. And I do have the story written, but maybe I don’t want to put it in here, after seeing that some just think that most sick men out here are jerking off to these stories.

BUT, there are also some women out here that DO get off as well. I have been contacted by a few that are maybe into this, (maybe in there minds) or maybe in real life. But there more than that, I have known at least 10 in my time on this earth, that are more forceful then guys, surprising the guy with either ropes or handcuffs, and she had her way with them, or even some heavy torture.

I do write (I think) in the RP area, and one there told me of this place, and leaving a rather vanilla board, coming here was a breath of fresh air for my style of writing. BUT, now I wonder if it is this way, or this board is trying to promote the fact of being a helpful one more then a sex sight for the guys, and gals that think it’s fun.

Now what about the therapist, that listens to this kind of horrific type of action caused to a female, and SHE gets turned on listening to it?? Or the male therapist that is the same way?? I cannot tell you but this is a double standard. I might think this stuff in my stories, but does not mean to say I will go out, pull the first one that strikes my fancy, to drug her, then take her to my place and have my way with her. Hell I think I have a pretty good grip on what I do, and most times just talk to those that SAY there that way, but I do a lot of feeling out to make sure they ARE that way.

So, here I am in a dilemma, I have other stories that are just pure fiction, maybe I should not post those in the story area, as well as this one from her that she wanted posted, and put out there, BUT she is now one that likes forced play, the stronger the better, but she does have better choices, as she knows who is going to do it now.

Oh well, I have now clamed I am a sicko, but I am a writer as well. So I guess I will venture back to the RP area and be the sicko that I am. Thanks for the 2 cents worth, and now will pull up my pants and leave…Honest, I have them on and not at my ankles!!